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 Post subject: Nw Tires
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:18 pm 
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I'm sure this has been discussed numerous times, but I am needing to purchase a new set of tires for the 03 ssei, I liked the Yokohama Avid Envigor for the price and 60k warranty until I read the reviews, which are pretty bad. I'm thinking of going with the Continental Procontact with ecoplus that I put on the wife's car, nice and quiet tire, but only 5k on them. What are you guys buying these days?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:26 pm 
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I just installed some Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Pluses on my Bonneville. Have just under 2,000 miles on them now. Extremely quiet. Like, unreal. Grip is amazing in wet conditions and I'm eager to test their snow prowess. These are rated for 70,000 miles.

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LOVE the Continental ExtremeContact DWS that we installed on my dad's Passat.

I had the Avid ENVigor on my 03, my only gripes were they weren't great in snow/ice, more of a 3 season tire, and they only lasted around 25k miles, although that may have been as much on me...

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I had Pirelli P6's last winter and all I can say is never again. They are terrible accelerating and stopping in snow. When I went to get new tires the tire shop said although they are all season tires they're a performance all season more for summer less for winter. I love them in the summer, like Carl said, although he has P7's they're very quiet and handle extremely well on dry and wet pavement. I'm running roadhuggers for the winter cuz college kid but so far they are doing just fine. I just got the fronts replaced so I have brand new Pirelli P6's in the front right now and Roadhuggers in the rear. But the Pirellis are not a favorite of mine

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I went with the P7s because they were the best rated tire in their category on Tirerack! The Michelin A/S are another great choice, but much pricier.

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By the ratings it looks like the P7's are a better choice than my P6's when it comes to Pirellis

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General Altimax HPs. Good ride, good grip in snow & rain. Been quite happy with them. They have 27k on them and should make it to 40k with no problem.

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I'm leaning towards the procontact with eco and 80k warranty, lots of good reviews at great price


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I've had great luck with my General Altimax tires as well. I've put almost 30k on them, and I feel like with a good rotation schedule, they'll easily make it to the 60-70k mark like they're rated.

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My 00' SSEi came with these tires when I bought it 4 years ago: http://www.federaltire.com/en/products_detail.php?class=High-Performance&products_detail_sn=11

These tires have been awesome!! Handling is "the curve ahead sign reads 25 MPH and we do 45-50!" Pretty much the same handling in the rain, these tires have proved to stick in the rain just as well in aggressive cornering. Wet traction overall is minimal wheel spin if any on 50%+ throttle take offs. Snow is pretty good too, never had any issues.

Unfortunately there are only a handful of online dealers which I ordered from last week and our size is back ordered 6-8 weeks!! Ugh so I will rotate and hurry up and wait! ;) ;)

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our goodyear assurance tires were rated at 80K, the wife got about 45K on them and they got noisey, I put the cont. pro with eco on then. I have 55K on them and the tread is near gone and they are dry rotting, although I have taken some of the tread life out prematurely, but they shouldn't be dry rotting after 3 years


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I wouldn't trust a Goodyear for more than a year.
I'm Currently running 2 245/40-18 Continental Contiprocontact's on the Regal right now and 2 pilot super sports of the same size. So far I have no complaints about the Continental's. I am surprised at how well they handle for an all-season tire actually, but that's probably an attribute of the tire size rather than a testament to the tread design. Obviously the super sports are a lot better but those are summer only tires. Judging by the amount of lateral sipes on the Conti's though I'm sure they do well in the winter too; however I run winter tires in the winter so It's likely I'll never find out. They do seem to be developing a bit of rot however, and judging by the reviews you won't get the full tread life out of them.

I'm also a big fan of the Michelin Defender and the Pirelli P7. They aren't really all that performance oriented since they use harder tread compounds for the extra tire life. The defender is a 90,000 mile tire and the P7 is a 70,000 mile tire. However, you can see some of the customer reviews for yourself here.

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I wouldn't trust a Goodyear for more than a year.
I'm Currently running 2 245/40-18 Continental Contiprocontact's on the Regal right now and 2 pilot super sports of the same size. So far I have no complaints about the Continental's. I am surprised at how well they handle for an all-season tire actually, but that's probably an attribute of the tire size rather than a testament to the tread design. Obviously the super sports are a lot better but those are summer only tires. Judging by the amount of lateral sipes on the Conti's though I'm sure they do well in the winter too; however I run winter tires in the winter so It's likely I'll never find out. They do seem to be developing a bit of rot however, and judging by the reviews you won't get the full tread life out of them.

I'm also a big fan of the Michelin Defender and the Pirelli P7. They aren't really all that performance oriented since they use harder tread compounds for the extra tire life. The defender is a 90,000 mile tire and the P7 is a 70,000 mile tire. However, you can see some of the customer reviews for yourself here.

I'm kind of blown away with this review, in that the less costly and less marketed name tires are getting better reviews, the customer reviews I read on the procontact w/eco were better than this chart and my wife's car doesn't have enough miles on pro contacts to make an opinion yet. Well maybe I will take a stab at either of the top two on the list. No matter what tire I have purchased, they never came close to their advertised mileage warranty. My dad would get lots and lots of miles out of Michelins, but he always drove very conservatively


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I just happened to be thinking about the review chart that was mentioned, the two tires at the top of the chart have a good tire tread wear number but does that mean they will go the expected mile warranty? Or will they go 70% like many of the others?


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Well the number 2 tire on that list has only 100,000 miles reported so I would not put much stake in what people have said about it just yet. Keep in mind that these are only reviews from customers who may not have much experience with a lot of the different tires to relate them to. I find it useful though for determining what conditions each tire excels at though. I am sure the mileage rating they have is based on what they expected to get out of the tire though.

As for mileage, it really depends on how your car wears tires. There's plenty of factors that go into consideration such as: average temperature the tires were used in, what type of weather the tires were used in (rain/snow vs constant dry pavement), vehicle alignment, tire pressures, and how the vehicle was driven.

I would expect that if you were replacing tires when they got down to 3/32" or 4/32" you would probably be somewhere around 75%-85% of the stated tread life. Somewhere I have my handbooks from work about how they rate their tires, but I believe that the mileage they rate them for is assuming you wear the tires down to the wear bars or even lower than that. If you feel like you've been cheated on the mileage estimate, you should be able to speak with your tire store about some sort of prorate on your old tires where you get some sort of credit back for the mileage you didn't get out of them.

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Well the number 2 tire on that list has only 100,000 miles reported so I would not put much stake in what people have said about it just yet. Keep in mind that these are only reviews from customers who may not have much experience with a lot of the different tires to relate them to. I find it useful though for determining what conditions each tire excels at though. I am sure the mileage rating they have is based on what they expected to get out of the tire though.

As for mileage, it really depends on how your car wears tires. There's plenty of factors that go into consideration such as: average temperature the tires were used in, what type of weather the tires were used in (rain/snow vs constant dry pavement), vehicle alignment, tire pressures, and how the vehicle was driven.

I would expect that if you were replacing tires when they got down to 3/32" or 4/32" you would probably be somewhere around 75%-85% of the stated tread life. Somewhere I have my handbooks from work about how they rate their tires, but I believe that the mileage they rate them for is assuming you wear the tires down to the wear bars or even lower than that. If you feel like you've been cheated on the mileage estimate, you should be able to speak with your tire store about some sort of prorate on your old tires where you get some sort of credit back for the mileage you didn't get out of them.
well even though the first tire only has 100K, the second has nearly a million, the pro contacts have even more than that, as far as driving tires down to the wear bars I don't see how that is possible unless you don't drive in the rain at all, my Goodyears are probably 4-5 32nds and hydroplane to the point of scaring me and I don't scare easy. I like a quiet tire almost above traction but not quite, if you know what I mean. I'm not hard in the cornering and if I was I would have a car suitable for that, nor a 4 door sedan. I'm still considering the Cont tires for price and quietness, my wifes 02 regal seems to do well with them in the quiet department and the wet traction seems really good.


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Ended up going with the pure contacts with eco plus. Had them put on the car Monday afternoon and yesterday some metal thingy got shoved through the tire between the tread lines. Tirerack had included road hazard with these so they are sending a new one out today. That's good service


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