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94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:43 am
by 2000Silverbullet
Someone broke it off today!
I'm sure it was an accident.
It's hanging off by the wires.
So how big a deal is it to replace and where's the best place to get one?
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:53 am
by Ragsdale
I have one in my garage, was going to replace the one on the 96 but couldn't figure out how to do it so I gave up.
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:58 am
by 2000Silverbullet
Is it just the stalk or does it include what the stalk attaches to?
Our actual stalk looks OK but I think it has broken away from whatever it was attached. Too dark now, so will have to look at in the morning.
Does any other gearhead out there have an assembly pictorial?
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:05 am
by Bob Dillon
2000Silverbullet wrote:Is it just the stalk or does it include what the stalk attaches to?
Our actual stalk looks OK but I think it has broken away from whatever it was attached. Too dark now, so will have to look at in the morning.
Does any other gearhead out there have an assembly pictorial?
Here's a link on steering column repair. There's some info on the turn signal stalk.
http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/fo ... =24&t=9888
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:07 am
by Ragsdale
OOOOO link to the gear head section!
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:21 am
by 2000Silverbullet
That's a great guide to replacing the internal turn signal mechanism.
How does the stalk connect to the steering column?
Could the ball and socket joint simply have been pulled out and can I simply pop it back in?
Greg, you didn't answer my question.
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:05 am
by Bob Dillon
Ragsdale wrote:OOOOO link to the gear head section!
Whoops, sorry. Just a subtle reminder of my exalted status here, peasant.
Here's a pic of how the switch attaches once the wheel has been removed. Maybe Andrew (Harofreak) will post the entire how-to in techinfo. It's excellent.

Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:42 am
by 2000Silverbullet
I can see now in the light that the mechanism that the stalk plugs into is all loose and floppy, like it has broken on the inside.
Greg, Ragsdale, PM me a price if what you have is what I need
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:45 am
by sandrock
HOLD UP, WAIT A MINUITE.
Is the stalk yoke damaged, or just the stalk? if it is just the stalk (no yoke damage), you can easily extract what's left of the stalk without having to tear into the column at all. The wires connect just outside of the collar...you can take off the plastic housing that surrounds the stalk and the tilt stalk and see it right there. Undo that, fish out what's left of the stalk in the yoke, then go hunting for another.
If the yoke IS broke....then scramble some eggs.

Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:23 am
by 2000Silverbullet
What are you calling the yoke?
The black mechanism that the stalk plugs into seems to be broken. The stalk will not plug into it.
I disconnected the stalk and removed it. A broken piece of metal and a 1/16" dia x 1" long steel pin fell out.

Also a small blue cap.
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:36 am
by sandrock
If that's the case, start diggin'.
The same thing happened on my '93. It was cheaper, and easier for me to do at the time, to replace the entire column than to dig into the original...lock cylinder and all. I then took the pellet from my original key, and put it into the key that came with the column.
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:28 pm
by 2000Silverbullet
THE ENTIRE COLUMN!!!!
No. I just want to replace what's broke.
What I need to know is what the broken ear that the pin connects to is so I can order it or find the piece in a scrap yard.
The plastic piece the stalk plugs into might be OK. It's hanging by some wires.
It's the metal piece that pins it together that I need. Does anyone have a picture of what it looks like? I don't have a service manual.
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:10 pm
by 2000Silverbullet
Here are some pics of what I have.

Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:58 pm
by Jrs3800
I am pretty sure that requires disassembly
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 6:39 pm
by 2000Silverbullet
Now that I inspect it again, I'm pretty sure also.
Cheap...

..flimsy...

...crappy......

.
I never liked how wiggley and how close it is to leg entry accidents that stalk was from the beginning!
What I'm trying to find out, if someone has an exploded view of components from a manual, what that eared metal part is that has the round pin in it that holds the stalk yoke.

Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:06 pm
by JMH1950
I just checked my FSM and did not find anything that would be of use to you, Paul. No detailed views of any kind that I could find.
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:10 pm
by 2000Silverbullet
Thanks John, but check again please. In my 00 manual there is a pic of it in Section 2 near the beginning under Steering, except the detail is not the same as the 94.

Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:50 pm
by JMH1950
Sorry Paul, I checked again and there is no detailed diagrams or pictures.
The only mention of disassembly is:
1. Make sure multi function lever is centered in the "off" position.
2. Remove cover.
3. Disconnect cruise control wire at connector.
4. Pull multi function lever straight out.
Even the instructions for inspection and repairs of the steering column don't mention anything about what you're after.
Strange.......... but true.
Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:30 pm
by 2000Silverbullet

It really doesn't surprise me.
I was searching the Rockauto site and I think I found the part that looks like it for $100.
Tomorrow I'll drive it, using hand signals out the window in the rain, to the GM dealer for him to diagnose and price the repair.
My Jeep has been in the shop the last couple of weeks getting some rust repair done. I have had to refab all the mud flap brackets in stainless steel.
I hope to get it back Tuesday or Wednesday.

Re: 94 Turn Signal Stalk Yoke Replacement.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:41 am
by mntnbkr
Replacing the entire column will probably be cheaper than a dealer repair of just the mechanism. Swapping a steering column really isn't all that difficult, and they're not outrageously expensive at salvage yards. I bet it would take half the time to replace the steering column as it would to tear down and rebuild the column that you have.
I've swapped a couple before, both in my '86 Monte Carlo SS. Both time because theifs tried to take it and smashed the column. They never found the kill switch though...sorry bastards. I think I paid like $50 or $70 each time.