My new baby....but there's a problem

[radomirthegreat]

As it was said before, take off the rocker panels for the winter time. Check out all the subframe bushings to look for more rust. Sand down all the rust and then paint it with something. Pick up a spray paint can of Dupli Color T360 for a nearly perfect color match for your car, but don't use it on areas people will see clearly. Just touch up bare spots that once had rust. In the spring time, see where you are with it and what you can do to move on.

[GreenGiantSSE]

ok so your saying take both sides off for the winter. how do i remove them from the front because the back i see the screw on the rubber. the foam thing i did it a lil. not much. i jus put it at each end and then a lil in the middle just to keep it sucure as i drive. i never knew that the panels were the same for all trims of my year. they really look different.

to stop the rust danthurs from NEBC was saying i could buy some navel jelly to try and slow the rusting down. another said use the jelly then get some dupli-color undercoating till the spring. ive gotten alot of ideas but idk which ones are really gonna benifit me. i cant try them all.

would it be wise to try and get it undercoated again if not already because idk if it was or wasnt since the car is originally from Ga and who knows if the owner that brought it up here did it.

[radomirthegreat]

If you use the undercoating, which I put in my trunk, you'll notice it's harder to get that off when the rust starts spreading again. You really should sand down all the rust you can see before you use undercoating.

[GreenGiantSSE]

another thing about that, i cant spray it on unless its 70 degrees or more outside?

[radomirthegreat]

I spray on stuff everywhere and at any temperature. You may not get a smooth finish, but you'll get it covered regardless of the weather. Sunlight helps. Also, a blow drier after the spraying helps a whole lot.

[GreenGiantSSE]

ok jack it up, sand the rust, spray the coat and hope for the best.

[radomirthegreat]

Yes, but try to be too sure that you've gotten all the rust.

[GreenGiantSSE]

ok what about if theres a part on the car where it has rusted through but it just looks like surface and i go to sand it down with sand paper and i go through a liittle bit. what should i do my autobody guru?

[radomirthegreat]

Fiberglass! Either that, or rivet on some sheet metal. I don't like riveting because it risks rust again, but you can use the riveted on sheet metal as a template of sorts for your fiberglass. Also, duct tape works temporarily. I don't believe you'll sand completely through to make a hole, though. What works best is a conical style wire wheel that you put in a drill. That just destroys rust (and surrounding areas). Since you're taking care of the underside, you can leave the surface uneven. The auto body undercoating may not adhere too well. I've found Wal Mart's $1/spray can primer to work very well on my family's Aerostar. Put the undercoating over dry primer for best adhesion and protection.

[GreenGiantSSE]

i want to fibergalss it but the thing about that is.....idk the first thing about it. duct tape was already on the car on both sides to hold it up when i brought it. i just hadnt noticed it till i got the car home. but not to sound dumb or anything....what exactly am i getting fiberglassed? because it seems like what your explaining to me is how to get the rust out of the way

[bonnevillain]

you could always do bondo... majorly FTL, but it works. kinda.

[GreenGiantSSE]

you could always do bondo... majorly FTL, but it works. kinda.

FTL? sorry not good with all abrev.

[bonnevillain]

for the lose. its just lame. haha.

[GreenGiantSSE]

for the lose. its just lame. haha.

lol wow. why didnt i think of that? i know what FTW means but not FTL

[radomirthegreat]

Fiberglass is pretty easy. There are glass fibers interwoven to form a cloth-like thing. You mix a resin with a hardener that makes the mixture rock solid after some waiting time. Pour the mixture over the cloth, and you've got fiberglass. Fiberglass can cover a hole since you just lay the sheet anywhere and pour the resin on top. It's awesome. Riveting helps, though.

[2000Silverbullet]

Another interim solution would be to spray the underside with used motor oil and then drive on a dirt road to create an oily skin that clings to the underside and inhibits further corrosion.

This method used to be a standard in Northern Ontario because of the copious use of road salt. It was unusual to have a car body last more than 5 years without perforating.

[GreenGiantSSE]

Fiberglass is pretty easy. There are glass fibers interwoven to form a cloth-like thing. You mix a resin with a hardener that makes the mixture rock solid after some waiting time. Pour the mixture over the cloth, and you've got fiberglass. Fiberglass can cover a hole since you just lay the sheet anywhere and pour the resin on top. It's awesome. Riveting helps, though.

yea i know what fiberglass is the resin and the hardener you have to add to it. i was meant that i didnt know how i would apply it to the car but now i know. so any hole i have just put the cloth over it,spread the resin over it and wait for it to harden.could i put it over a rusted part of the frame so the salt cant fully get to it any more?

Another interim solution would be to spray the underside with used motor oil and then drive on a dirt road to create an oily skin that clings to the underside and inhibits further corrosion.

This method used to be a standard in Northern Ontario because of the copious use of road salt. It was unusual to have a car body last more than 5 years without perforating.

this way would work but its just that the dirt here is starting to get hard on the days that its not raining. would sand work? and also too what about when i want to get the car washed? i have to redo it all over again?

[radomirthegreat]

Covering rust is a temporary fix, and covering it with fiberglass makes it tougher to go back and do a permanent fix. The rust under the fiberglass would spread out, so eventually the fiberglass would just fall through a bigger rust hole. Sand may work to make the underside of the car kind of nasty, but dirt really helps. See how much a local Wal Mart charges for planting soil.

[GreenGiantSSE]

Covering rust is a temporary fix, and covering it with fiberglass makes it tougher to go back and do a permanent fix. The rust under the fiberglass would spread out, so eventually the fiberglass would just fall through a bigger rust hole. Sand may work to make the underside of the car kind of nasty, but dirt really helps. See how much a local Wal Mart charges for planting soil.

ok that i get but im just saying ill will try that but what happens when i get the car washed

[radomirthegreat]

You'll probably have to recover the underside with dirt. Another handy solution is to sand down the rust and use an aerosol can rust to primer converter. Do about 5 very light coats with an hour to dry in between each. You must sand first. Any light rust can be covered by this. It goes on clear and dries black wherever rust used to be, and then you can cover that with auto body rubberized undercoating. Avoid rust from then on!