hmm, rocker time
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Re: hmm, rocker time
i dont understand why its not a good build
just telling me its a bad idea isnt telling me why
just telling me its a bad idea isnt telling me why
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harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: hmm, rocker time
You're wasting time, money, and effort. About twice the cost of a cam alone (with the supporting parts). Rockers and cam run about the same price. Doing both is ridiculous, especially when you have to tone down the lift on the cam later to match your rockers.
It's like spreading expired peanut butter on your sandwich when you know you'll just have to scrape it off and buy more before you eat it.
It's like spreading expired peanut butter on your sandwich when you know you'll just have to scrape it off and buy more before you eat it.

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Re: hmm, rocker time
90# springs with my 1.9 rockers easily allow my engine to turn a safe
6400 rpm
Stronger springs on a stock timing chain could accelerate wear of the tensioner and links.
Others have done the 105's with 1.9's without issues so the risk with 1.8's will be less.
Doing the rockers followed by a cam is more costly but your reasoning seems logical.
Have fun.
I just came back from excersizing mine.
Bill, my lsd is still working great on dry roads.
Stronger springs on a stock timing chain could accelerate wear of the tensioner and links.
Others have done the 105's with 1.9's without issues so the risk with 1.8's will be less.
Doing the rockers followed by a cam is more costly but your reasoning seems logical.
Have fun.
I just came back from excersizing mine.

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Re: hmm, rocker time
thank you Paul,
it might be a little more expensive, but it works does it not?
running both worked out well for Todd, why wouldn't it work out well for me?
Bill i understand what your trying to tell me,
but the build im doing will work, and it'll be sexy.
it might be a little more expensive, but it works does it not?
running both worked out well for Todd, why wouldn't it work out well for me?
Bill i understand what your trying to tell me,
but the build im doing will work, and it'll be sexy.
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harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: hmm, rocker time
Todd's car is for sale. Why don't you just save a lot of trouble and buy it?
AND by the time you are ready to buy the heads for that rocker/cam combo to copy Todd's build i doubt they will even be offered by Intense anymore.
AND by the time you are ready to buy the heads for that rocker/cam combo to copy Todd's build i doubt they will even be offered by Intense anymore.
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Re: hmm, rocker time
i did 1.9 rockers instead of a cam. biggest mistake right there, probably why i got bored of the car in the first place.
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Re: hmm, rocker time
As far as a daily driver goes I'm glad that i went with rockers. I know far to many guys who went through multiple motors once they put an aftermarket cam in.
Re: hmm, rocker time
Like I said if the lift on the cam is lowered you can use 1.9s with a cam No problem because the effective lift can be the same as an xp or s1x.
contact Paul at http://www.prjperformance.com great guy and will will do the custom low lift cam at pretty much the same price as zzp or intense.
Also, why would he buy a different car? he has an 03 SSEI the best year IMO. Plus, part of the fun is doing the work yourself.
If the heads are not carried by intense there are other places to get them...
contact Paul at http://www.prjperformance.com great guy and will will do the custom low lift cam at pretty much the same price as zzp or intense.
Also, why would he buy a different car? he has an 03 SSEI the best year IMO. Plus, part of the fun is doing the work yourself.
If the heads are not carried by intense there are other places to get them...
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Re: hmm, rocker time
well, im starting with rockers,
adding the heads n cam after i get out of basic training in august
and then seeing where i am from there
adding the heads n cam after i get out of basic training in august
and then seeing where i am from there
Miles: 80k - Color: Maroon - Rims: aSa sport CD - Tint: 5% ^-^ - cleared fronts - ebay blue high/lowbeams - custom amber turn signals
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: hmm, rocker time
oh and dan, just buying todds car was my first thought when i saw it up for sale, but now
i wanna do it myself you know, something to do while im on leave
i wanna do it myself you know, something to do while im on leave
Miles: 80k - Color: Maroon - Rims: aSa sport CD - Tint: 5% ^-^ - cleared fronts - ebay blue high/lowbeams - custom amber turn signals
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.



