I have the belief (because I don't remember from the last time I had the Tail Lenses removed to replace lamps) that one of the sockets in each Tail Lens is a Brake/Tail Lite and one is a Tail Lite only.

Where I'm going with this is if one is a Brake/Tail Lite socket and one is a Tail Lite only, what kind of mayhem would I cause if I converted the one Tail Lite only socket to a Brake/Tail Lite socket (and of course wiring it that way into the wiring harness) and replacing the incandescent lamps with dual function LEDs?

Thanks - BC

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In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321

You have 4 brake lights out back plus the raised center under the wing. If you find some quality dual intensity LEDs, get them in red and go to town. It's plug and play.

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-Car Guy Carl
"Penelope" - 2003 SLE - 247k Miles
"Sydney" - 2000 Honda S2000 - 98k miles

So, if I only have the "outside" brake lamps lighting when the brakes are applied, then the two interior brake lamps are open. Ok, thanks! That's what I vaguely remember, but then my memory has "gone to the dogs". I'm sure though that the dog's memory is better than mine - lol! - BC

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2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321

I've "spotted" these. Any other suggestions? Comments?

Dual Intensity Tail Light/Brake Light/Turn Signal RED 3157 $7.95 each
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... r/804/794/
60 lumins

3157 LED Bulb w/ Stock Cover - Dual Function 36 SMD LED Tower - Wedge Retrofit – RED $14.95 each (need 4 = ($14.95x4=$58.90)
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... -car/1688/
270 lumins

Thanks - BC

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In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321

I'm not sure if your trying to find LEDS that look sorta like the stock bulbs, but I put these in my car and I really like the look of them https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... t-car/633/ They are a little more expensive than the ones you were looking at, but I can admit these are very bright... I am actually thinking about getting these in amber to put in the front/rear turn signals also.

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John
2003 SSEI - Nighthawk
Performance: Boat Roller Mount, Intense FWI, Moog Polyurethane End Links, 180* tstat, silicone vacuum lines
Appearance: "Supercharged" 3rd Brake Overlay, LED Interior Lights, RallyArmor Splash Guards, Red Calipers, HID retrofit, black GXP rims
Audio: Nothing... yet!

I need the "new" LED lamps to 1) to fit into the tail lens, and 2) be at least as bright as the OEM incandescent bulbs. They were touching the tail lens from the inside. So I tried back-up LED's that in appearance are very similar to the ones you used. They were very similar to the 3157-R25. Thanks - BC

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In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321

Ok, ya I like the ones I put in, they seem to have a light pattern similar to OEM bulbs, but are noticebly brighter. I think they fit just fine in the housing, they are just slightly longer than an incandescent bulb.

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John
2003 SSEI - Nighthawk
Performance: Boat Roller Mount, Intense FWI, Moog Polyurethane End Links, 180* tstat, silicone vacuum lines
Appearance: "Supercharged" 3rd Brake Overlay, LED Interior Lights, RallyArmor Splash Guards, Red Calipers, HID retrofit, black GXP rims
Audio: Nothing... yet!

The published dimensions of the LEDs you use are longer/higher than OEM. I am concerned that the LED replacement could possibly cause problems with the lens over a period of time. - BC

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In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321

I have had my lights in for probably about a year now, and they seem absolutely fine. Your looking for lights for your 2005 correct?

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John
2003 SSEI - Nighthawk
Performance: Boat Roller Mount, Intense FWI, Moog Polyurethane End Links, 180* tstat, silicone vacuum lines
Appearance: "Supercharged" 3rd Brake Overlay, LED Interior Lights, RallyArmor Splash Guards, Red Calipers, HID retrofit, black GXP rims
Audio: Nothing... yet!

Yes, 2005 SE. I may be overly cautious, but I was just brousing for Tail Lenses and I couldn't believe the asking price for some bretty rough looking Tail Lenses. - BC

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In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321

Ya, I know what you mean about those prices. I'm no expert in LEDS but I'm pretty sure they actually run cooler than incandescent so they have less chance of melting the lens... don't quote me on that though...

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John
2003 SSEI - Nighthawk
Performance: Boat Roller Mount, Intense FWI, Moog Polyurethane End Links, 180* tstat, silicone vacuum lines
Appearance: "Supercharged" 3rd Brake Overlay, LED Interior Lights, RallyArmor Splash Guards, Red Calipers, HID retrofit, black GXP rims
Audio: Nothing... yet!

LEDs like the ones for the tail lights produce no perceivable heat. Make sure you get red ones if you decide on purchasing them, not white.

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-Car Guy Carl
"Penelope" - 2003 SLE - 247k Miles
"Sydney" - 2000 Honda S2000 - 98k miles

Yes, I know, but they still run much warmer that I thought they would. Warm enough to think twice about touching them after they've been on for a while. - BC

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In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321

EDIT: okay, maybe I should be asking the question this way: I am unable to find the part numbers for the turn signal flasher, and for the 4 way hazard flasher. Does anyone have the GM part numbers so I can compare the schematics of the GM ralays with the ones sold by superbrightled web site?

Thanks - BC

Which relays would work best? If I install one of these for the turn signals and one for the hazards, I won't need to install a LED Light Load Resistor Kit - LED Turn Signal Hyper Flash & Warning Fix ( https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... x/190/831/ )

FL3-RED LED Bulb Electronic Flasher Product Code: FL3-RED-K
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... r/780/834/

CF12ANL-01 LED Bulb Electronic Flasher Product Code: CF12ANL-01
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... r/781/835/

EP29L LED Bulb Electronic Flasher Product Code: EP29L
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... r/785/839/

FL2-RED LED Bulb Electronic Flasher Product Code: FL2-RED-K
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... r/779/833/

Thanks - BC

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In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321