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Seat removal when power not available...

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:34 pm
by Erinyes
Ran into this when stripping my 2001 - after gutting the engine compartment, I started on the interior, then realized I had stupidly left the front seats in the rearward position, blocking that one bolt. What to do?

Since it was a do-or-die scenario, I opened the factory repair manual and found the schematics for the seats. Turns out the motor that runs the horizontal control is positioned so that the 2-wire power connector is barely accessible, and applying power to one wire and ground to the other will rotate the motor.

Power to the tan wire moves the seat forward, power to the green wire moves it backward. Used jumper wires, a switch, and a fuse hooked up to a battery.

The only hitch is getting the connections tight enough to not pull excessive amps. I finally got one seat to move just by inserting spade terminals into the back of the connector, but the other seat I could not get a tight enough connection, and had issues with the jumper wires I was using turning red-hot. Blew a 40-amp fuse, too.

I finally clipped the wire connector off of the first seat motor, spliced my jumpers to that, plugged the connector into the socket under the seat, and it worked like a charm. Once I had the wiring setup rigged up, it was fairly easy (although a bit painful - the working area is tight!) to plug in the connector.

Re: Seat removal when power not available...

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:17 am
by samples08
Next time try a drill battery they work wonders and will normally fit in tight spaces under the seat. But good work.

Re: Seat removal when power not available...

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:45 am
by Erinyes
Tried a drill battery first, but most likely didn't have a tight connection at the motor connector - not a hint of motor action. Thought at the time that since the seat had a 30 amp fuse, the 1.5 amp battery just didn't have enough oomph to turn it. Just kept working through iterations until I had a setup that did the trick.

Good thing, too. The replacement car has a bad sunroof, and the headliner is drooping in multiple places - it's actually stapled into place at the rear window. The crunched car's headliner and sunroof are in excellent shape. I really wanted those seats out of the way to get parts out...

Re: Seat removal when power not available...

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:31 pm
by harofreak00
I simply apply 12v to orange wires and ground to black at the main connector. Why make it more difficult?

Re: Seat removal when power not available...

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:00 am
by Erinyes
Well, we're all learning something new each day. Here's a post I found while scrambling around to find a solution...

http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/fo ... or#p439862

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