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Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:07 am
by kennyz
As some of you may know, I have been trying to solve the dreaded surging problem for some time now. New plugs, wires, used ignition module and coils, and fuel filter. I have now found that it still surges while the transmission is in Drive. Does this help to eliminate any of the causes of the problem or help in diagnosing it??

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:28 am
by 96 SSEi
hi, I believe you would greatly benefit from a scantool that will give you basic operating environment -
fuel trims, ect, maf/map and o2 volts - I got a cheap - under 100 from wally mart
roadi ngs 100 - well worth the price.

please unplug the Maf and see if you issue improves....

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:12 pm
by redzmonte
How bad does it surge? Is it like a miss fire surge or just a slow smooth surge?

when does it surge? up hill, flat ground, accelerating, coasting, holding a constant speed?

Have you cleaned your maf anytime recently? is there a screen in the MAF/Throttle body still?

If you can scan it, that may help isolate the issue to something like bad/dirty maf or slow O2 sensor..

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:41 pm
by kennyz
It`s a steady surge, will do it uphill or on flat ground if I`m accelerating. I usually make it stop by either lifting off the pedal or downshifting into passing gear. It will do it in both OD and Drive.
I`ve scanned it on several occasions, no codes.
Once in a while it will throw a code for insufficient flow to the EGR but that`s not very often.

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:37 am
by redfury
You probably have a blocked or partially blocked EGR tube. That will cause the surging. Take the tube off, there's no gaskets to worry about. Get some carb cleaner and blast it and break up the carbon. Ideally, take the entire throttle body off and get access to it easier and make sure the throttle body is clean as well.

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:21 am
by kennyz
I`ve already cleaned the tube and the problem still persists.

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:01 pm
by 96 SSEi
did you unplug the Maf?

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:43 pm
by kennyz
96 SSEi wrote:did you unplug the Maf?
Yes I did. It seemed slightly better but did not go away completely.

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:38 pm
by 96 SSEi
you sure there are no codes at all? pending codes can be useful to detect the issue.

you can clean the IAC valve - right below maf on front of TB.

what rpm are you at idle, full operating temp - 200f? in park and in gear.

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:44 am
by kennyz
96 SSEi wrote:you sure there are no codes at all? pending codes can be useful to detect the issue.

you can clean the IAC valve - right below maf on front of TB.

what rpm are you at idle, full operating temp - 200f? in park and in gear.
About 600 RPMs.

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:34 pm
by 96 SSEi
can you swap the maf with a known good unit to test performance with new maf?

600rpm seems low it should be 750-850 iirc

Re: Yet another surging problem question

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:37 pm
by MKMike
Check fuel pressure.
You may have a faulty fuel pressure regulator or a failing fuel pump.