Crazy Brake Idea

Discuss your 2000-2005 Bonneville SE, SLE, SSEi, Buick Le Sabre 00-05 and Buick Park Avenue 97-05. Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.
Post Reply
Grannys Wagon
LE Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:41 am
Year and Trim: 04 Pontiac Bonneville SE
387k

Crazy Brake Idea

Post by Grannys Wagon »

I know this may sound crazy but I have an idea about deleting my ABS. I wonder if anyone has done this. I really don't want to replace the ABS valve on my car. Was thinking about just removing lines from control valve and t-ing them off to front rear lines etc. I also heard this can increase mph if they are dragging due to cpu. My main question is if anyone has schematics on brake system and fitting size. Thanks.
User avatar
AJT2004
Posts like an LG3
Posts like an LG3
Posts: 341
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:45 am
Year and Trim: 2004 Bonneville SE
Location: New York

Re: Crazy Brake Idea

Post by AJT2004 »

Why do you want to do this, is your ABS not working? If it is not working the braking system functions like a non-ABS. I do not know what the advantage is to delete, I think from a safety perspective you may have bigger problems trying to delete and re-plumb the lines. Also if you have traction control I believe you will lose that as well as it works with ABS. I vote to fix it right.
2004 Bonneville SE 151,xxx- 20% tint all around, 5% tint bar on windshield | 4500k DDM HID low | De-badged | Hardwired Passport 9500ix | FWI(inter-cooler piping) | FE2 Rear Sway Bar | Solid Motor Mount | 180* Stat | Firm Shift Kit



- '92 Bonneville SE - '85 Grand Am - '73 Catalina - '67 Catalina
- '87 Bonneville SE - '82 6000 - '78 Catalina [/color]
User avatar
RJolly87
Certified Bonneville Nut
Certified Bonneville Nut
Posts: 5403
Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 8:53 am
Year and Trim: 1993 Buick Park Avenue
1994 Buick Regal Custom
Location: Las Cruces, NM

Re: Crazy Brake Idea

Post by RJolly87 »

The only time there was ever really talk of converting ABS to standard brakes was with the old Teeves system (88-90), because it was prohibitively expensive to replace, and non ABS parts outnumber the ABS parts. Even then it took a bit of work.

In your situation, I would recommend against it. Standard systems are channeled diagonally for safety, so teeing the lines front and back sounds like a bad idea.

Contacting Harofreak00 would likely be the best route, because he will likely have the parts to fix it right. What issue are you having that would drive you to get rid of it?
~Randall~
ImageImage

1993 Buick Park Avenue - 197k - Some odds and ends done - Simply won't die
1994 Buick Regal - 78k - Bone stock - Always ready for a good kicking
1990 Oldsmobile 88 - Gone to a better place
User avatar
crash93ssei
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
Posts: 7671
Joined: Mon May 19, 2008 6:08 pm
Year and Trim: 2002 SE
Location: Midland, Michigan

Re: Crazy Brake Idea

Post by crash93ssei »

Definitely a horrible idea in every way possible to think of it, absolutely zero benefit in any way. The time and money it would take to redo all the lines with new fittings etc. would easily out weigh the cost of just fixing it right. I believe you can replace just the solenoid valve portion and be all set just about every time. I don't believe those are that expensive used either which is the route I would go. I say just fix it right and be done with it.
Ryan
Image
2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one
MattStrike wrote:It was the worst week of my life! *pause, drinks beer... smiles* But I'm better now!
mikeluscher159
SSE Member
SSE Member
Posts: 107
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:11 am
Year and Trim: 2002 Bonneville SLE

Re: Crazy Brake Idea

Post by mikeluscher159 »

Not a good idea
User avatar
nos4blood70
Certified Bonneville Nut
Certified Bonneville Nut
Posts: 9522
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 6:11 pm
Year and Trim: 2003 SLE
Location: Chicago, IL

Re: Crazy Brake Idea

Post by nos4blood70 »

Much easier and safer to fix it the right way.
-Car Guy Carl
"Penelope" - 2003 SLE - 250k Miles
"Sydney" - 2000 Honda S2000 - 101k miles
Image
Post Reply