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Ok so ive got a stock non supercharged motor. Would it be worth it to get a street tune from intense for my car? What gains would i actually see?

I have an intense tune in my Lesabre, and it definitely woke the car up a good bit. However, before you get a tune, make sure your maintenance is all up today, make sure your intake gaskets are in good shape, and if you're going to change them, port your lower intake manifold while it's out. The PLIM will make a HUGE difference in the way the car feels and responds, and the tune after that will really wake the car up.

the car has had all of the fluids changed, wires, plugs lower and upper intake gaskets so i should be good there! now for the same price of a street tune pcm whose is better intense or zzp?

There's always a mixed discussion on that. ZZP seems to be better with the grand prix crowd, and intense better with the H-body crowd. I've been fully satisfied with the Intense tune and have never dealt with ZZP personally, so I can't say if they're better or worse than Intense so to speak, but I'll give intense a +1 since I've had good experience with them. I actually called them and talked about my tune over the phone so i knew I was going to get exactly what I wanted, and they had fantastic customer service.

You have a problem if this is referring to your '95.

yea im a idiot! ive got obd1 with an obd2 port. obd 1.5. so where can i get chips for my computer?! cant find any very easily so can any of you guys help!!?

Good call, totally missed that this was for a 95. Didn't 95nasta have his tuned before he did the S2 swap? I know there was a company that did mail orders for pre 96 cars, but I can't think of it for the life of me.

if someone could remember where i can get obd1 chips it would be awsome ive been reaserching today and cant really find much of anyone that does obd1 chips cause they are so outdated.

Sinister performance in Indiana is the company that will do it. http://www.gmtuners.com/

ok so do i need to email then and tell them i want a chip with a mild street tune or what?

Last time I heard, Sinister Performance won't do any kind of tune without you providing them with some data and information (not like Intense where you can select some options and have it canned tuned).

But that was years ago, they may have changed how they do things now. I plan to take my LeSabre over there, once I'm finished with the car, mainly to have them help wake it up a bit.

I guess it can't hurt to email them with what you currently have done, and any future plans you might have, as they might be able to help steer you in the right direction for which tune you need.

Ryan is a good guy to chat with and is highly knowledgeable with this sort of thing. He's been doing Fiero swaps for years, and knows his way around an EEPROM or twenty.

i will most likely email them. i dont want to just run threw their list and put all stock and get a chip that makes the car run exactly the same. i want to wake the car up.

That's exactly how Ryan operates. You tell him what you want changed, what you want to stay the same, and he'll do it.

is ryan on the site or what? e-mail private message whatever i wanna get in contact with him

after more than $5,000 in upgrades invested on my SLE, and then buying a SSEI. I would highly recomend anyone to just save the money and buy a new car. I did everything, Intense's hole kit, PLIM, tranny upgrades, exhaut upgrades, gxp brakes, and after all of that the SSEI is way mor fun to drive than the SLE. Is faster, it handles better, and it stops quicker. I can only imagine If I had all of that wasted money again to throw on the SSEI.

95se wrote:is ryan on the site or what? e-mail private message whatever i wanna get in contact with him

Ryan IS Sinister. Pretty much a one-man (and maybe some buddies) shop. Not sure if he's on this site, pretty sure he is. Username is "darthfiero".

I mean how much would my car wake up is the big question?

from just a tune, I would say about 6 or 7 extra horses. If you install the intake with the tune, then about 10 more horses. I dont think that a normal person can feel the diffrence. but it does help the on the shifting department & that is what youll notice the most.

The biggest things I noticed when I got my tune back was an increase in throttle response (how snappy the gas pedal was when I floored it), quicker shifts instead of it feeling like it lagged a little in between gear changes, and it's definitely a little quicker to the 0-60, as well as up top since I had the shift points raised.