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New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:58 am
by Ryan from Ohio
I just picked up a 2000 SLE last night off a guy I know.

He told me when you fill it you have to stop around a gallon otherwise fuel will shoot out the filler at you.

He also told me there is a ping pong ball like check in the filler pipe. To just undo the pipe at the rubber hose and run something down it to bust it out.

Is this correct or is there more to it?

I trust the guy pretty well, but I dont want to just do this and find out Im going to get a code on the dash... Also Ive never done anything like this, just want to make sure the info he gave me is accurate.

BTW 2000 SLE with 113K on it. Got the rust around the fuel cap and about 1/2 a dollar bill worth on the pass door. Nice car otherwise.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:59 pm
by Ryan from Ohio
I fiddled with it some today. I could not get the filler neck to come out. I took the top hose clamp off. Not sure if there is more to it- so I buttoned it up and called it a day.

Also I noticed it appears the filler neck is fairly new. The edge around the cap looks a bit rusty/crappy. There is a white parts sticker on it and the sticker looks new.

At this point I said heck with it, going to a mechanic thats better than me. Im not one to get under cars and I most certainly am not going to drop the fuel tank.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:59 am
by 00Beast
The outside of the filler isn't really exposed to much, so I'd bet it's the original.

There is no valve inside of the filler, but there is one that leads to the evaporative emissions canister. I'd bet that's what's bad.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:25 pm
by Jrs3800
I Agree that its most likely the EVAP Canister.... Unless the car has the glow stick mod...lol

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:35 pm
by Ryan from Ohio
I assume you guys are talking about this:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19470&p=206235

Hopefully its a cheap fix.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:05 pm
by 2002BonnevilleSE
BTW...Welcome to the site.
You came to the right place for help with your Bonneville.
Don't forget to post a few photos of your car when you get a chance.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:38 pm
by Ryan from Ohio
Nice blue, ours is the same or similar.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:34 pm
by DASHAWN1234
I am wondering if anyone knows if a 2005 sle has two vent solenoids. Because i had one changed and i dont know if it was front or rear. But what i do know is that my "check gas cap light" is still on ,as well SEL.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:14 am
by Archon
Things can get confusing when it comes to what those things are called. This part is under the hood looks like this and Rock Auto has it listed as a Vapor Canister Purge Valve.

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This part is under the car near the rear wheel, and is listed as a Vapor Canister Solenoid.

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If either part is defective, it will set the check gas cap code.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:26 pm
by DASHAWN1234
ok the second one (vapor canister solenoid) is the one i had changed so i will change the other one right away...do you know where the vapor canister purge valve is located under the hood?

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:50 pm
by harofreak00
On the top back of the engine.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:09 pm
by DASHAWN1234
does the vapor canister purge valve have another name for it?

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:09 pm
by DASHAWN1234
does the vapor canister purge valve have another name for it?

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:21 pm
by Archon
DASHAWN1234 wrote:does the vapor canister purge valve have another name for it?
It may be called the vent valve.

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:59 am
by DASHAWN1234
thanks i found it and replaced it..reset the sel...now with both of them changed lets see if i resolved the check gas cap light issue

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:36 am
by DASHAWN1234
well the SEL and check gas cap light came back on....dont know what direction to head in from this point...any more suggestions??

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:41 am
by Archon
Have you checked for rust around the top of the filler tube? Have you replaced the gas cap?

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:10 pm
by DASHAWN1234
i replaced the gas cap twice and there is little rust around the filler tube...any other suggestions

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:27 pm
by DASHAWN1234
also my pcm isnt giving any data on the fuel tank pressure sensor

Re: New guy with Fuel Fill issue

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:56 pm
by 00Beast
That's because it is likely just a switch, not a sensor, and it just tells the PCM whether it's acceptable or not acceptable.