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Tire recommendation?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:36 pm
by EWC88
So I need two new front tires since my current ones are shot. You guys have any recommendations? Don't do any track time, just normal driving, here and there little high speeds.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:42 pm
by repinS
What's your budget, and how much winter driving do you do?
edit: Also, what are the two currently good tires?
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:59 pm
by EWC88
Ones on the rear are prime wells :( And I'm from nj and I think or atleast hope were done with snow, this was the first time since awhile we got alot of snow, but it's all melted now. Budget not to sure, someone else buying it. Also looking for not a noisey tire.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:04 pm
by 00Beast
sonoma_zr2 has these on his car, and likes them:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... toModClar= (These are in your size, though).
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:55 pm
by repinS
The trick here is that we don't want to mismatch your current Chinese tires. Based on some quick searching, I'm guessing you have the Primewell PS850?
Throwing far too sticky tires on the front and having crap in the rear is a recipe for disaster, whether it's oversteer in an emergency manouver, or wet/snowy conditions. For this reason, you need to have your
new tires on the rear, always. I'm feeling the Kumho Solus KR21:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... toModClar=
The BFG's that Ed posted will probably be okay, but they're more expensive.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:17 pm
by EWC88
Yea I'm not happy with The purchase of the prime wells, I mean so far all is good but price was high for that quality.
Anyone else with recommendations?
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:42 pm
by xX3800Xx
repinS wrote:Throwing far too sticky tires on the front and having crap in the rear is a recipe for disaster, whether it's oversteer in an emergency manouver, or wet/snowy conditions. For this reason, you need to have your new tires on the rear, always. I'm feeling the Kumho Solus KR21:
Actually new tires are always suppose to go on the front. Especially on a FWD car. You need the front tires to stop, turn and accelerate. If you put the crappy tires on the front with the new ones in back your greatly increasing your risks of an accident during normal driving conditions. Now if your rear tires are causing you to oversteer in inclement weather you either need to replace the tires because they are not sufficient or go only as fast as conditions allow.
This is what I tell people at work when they ask where the new tires should go.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:10 pm
by LeSabre in Buffalo
Wal-Mart only puts new tires on the rear, FWIW.
I love the Pirelli P4's on my car. They're great in the rain and snow, and handle pretty well for a 205/70-15 tire.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:49 pm
by BonneMe
xX3800Xx wrote:repinS wrote:Throwing far too sticky tires on the front and having crap in the rear is a recipe for disaster, whether it's oversteer in an emergency manouver, or wet/snowy conditions. For this reason, you need to have your new tires on the rear, always. I'm feeling the Kumho Solus KR21:
Actually new tires are always suppose to go on the front. Especially on a FWD car. You need the front tires to stop, turn and accelerate. If you put the crappy tires on the front with the new ones in back your greatly increasing your risks of an accident during normal driving conditions. Now if your rear tires are causing you to oversteer in inclement weather you either need to replace the tires because they are not sufficient or go only as fast as conditions allow.
This is what I tell people at work when they ask where the new tires should go.
Well repinS is right. More grip out back = a stable car. Tires really should be rotated frequently, and replaced in sets of 4. Ask any GP GXP driver how they feel about their massive grip levels up front, and smaller tires out back during winter, A coworker of mine has one and it's downright SQUIRRELY.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:53 pm
by wjcollier07
xX3800Xx wrote:repinS wrote:Throwing far too sticky tires on the front and having crap in the rear is a recipe for disaster, whether it's oversteer in an emergency manouver, or wet/snowy conditions. For this reason, you need to have your new tires on the rear, always. I'm feeling the Kumho Solus KR21:
Actually new tires are always suppose to go on the front. Especially on a FWD car. You need the front tires to stop, turn and accelerate. If you put the crappy tires on the front with the new ones in back your greatly increasing your risks of an accident during normal driving conditions. Now if your rear tires are causing you to oversteer in inclement weather you either need to replace the tires because they are not sufficient or go only as fast as conditions allow.
This is what I tell people at work when they ask where the new tires should go.
There's nothing actual about that. Being a service writer, among the other services and products I sell, I sell tires. I've been to several seminars about that very topic, showing why, etc etc. This is not even to mention the in-person feedback from people experiencing this very thing. New tires go on the rear to prevent that aforementioned over-steer before someone has to find out that their tires are too worn. Obviously, the answer is always to keep them all as matching as possible, but there are those people...that replace them in twos.

Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:45 pm
by EWC88
I would replace all of my tires but like said the two that are on the rear are only a year old and have alot of traction left on it. Plus when I replaced my last tires I had to replace only two cuz they had flats. Why waste my two newly tires..
But anyway back on, so far got 2 tire recommendations, anyone else have any idea?
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:51 pm
by GoldenBullet
I am more than pleased with my yokohama avid touring-s's.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:15 am
by EWC88
repinS wrote:The trick here is that we don't want to mismatch your current Chinese tires. Based on some quick searching, I'm guessing you have the Primewell PS850?
Throwing far too sticky tires on the front and having crap in the rear is a recipe for disaster, whether it's oversteer in an emergency manouver, or wet/snowy conditions. For this reason, you need to have your
new tires on the rear, always. I'm feeling the Kumho Solus KR21:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... toModClar=
The BFG's that Ed posted will probably be okay, but they're more expensive.
I'm just nervous on the rating that those tires (Kumho) got. Have you ever own them personally?
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:15 pm
by 00Beast
They're on my sister's Taurus, and they seem like good tires (The Kumho's).
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:09 pm
by EWC88
Really? How are they with loudness?
I was just nervous cause alot of reviews were showing quick tire life
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:40 pm
by EWC88
RepinS, I actually have PS830 on the rear. You still say stick with getting the Kumho?
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:48 pm
by Skippy1827
The guy at Car -x (yes Car-X) says to put new tires on the rear of a FWD car..
I would tel you to put matching tires on.. If you don't want to, I have Cooper CS4 Touring and love em.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:05 pm
by repinS
After taking another look I would say either those Kumho KR21's or the Yokohama Avid Touring S that Matt suggested. Are you buying locally or from Tire Rack? Shop around and see who's cheapest.
What are you worried about for the ratings of the Kumho? I'm more concerned about your current Primewell tires. If you have the money to replace all four, I would strongly suggest it. They are another one of those uber cheap Chinese tires that don't particularly excel at ANYTHING other than price. My mom's 1998 Nissan Altima has "Runway" tires in a similar tread pattern to what you have. They're noisy as hell, and are absolutely useless for traction in the dry, wet, and snow. Even though they've got lots of tread depth, I think we will be looking to replace them soon when the snow tires come off.
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:28 pm
by EWC88
Well my car is getting worked on locally and the guy told me he can do tires just think of what kind I want and he'll get them. If I was to get 4 what tires you suggest then?
Re: Tire recommendation?
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:03 pm
by 00Beast
I'd get the Kumho's, Erich.