What would you do?
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What would you do?
Keep in mind:
Zilla: Broken pretty bad, won't move until early Feb at the earliest, has summer performance tires.
SLEeper: Pretty bad front hubs, BAD rear brakes, and really good all-seasons.
Lisa's Fusion: Crappy tires.
Scenario: Gotta go to Eastern Oregon over the pass this weekend. Do I drive the Fusion (Lisa's not comfortable considering the mountain pass and the weather in driving it herself), or do I put the SLEeper's wheels on the Fusion? SLEeper is 5x115, Fusion is 5x114.3?
Or do we just take the SLEeper as is?
(and if we swap, who wants pics?)
Zilla: Broken pretty bad, won't move until early Feb at the earliest, has summer performance tires.
SLEeper: Pretty bad front hubs, BAD rear brakes, and really good all-seasons.
Lisa's Fusion: Crappy tires.
Scenario: Gotta go to Eastern Oregon over the pass this weekend. Do I drive the Fusion (Lisa's not comfortable considering the mountain pass and the weather in driving it herself), or do I put the SLEeper's wheels on the Fusion? SLEeper is 5x115, Fusion is 5x114.3?
Or do we just take the SLEeper as is?
(and if we swap, who wants pics?)

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Re: What would you do?
Bill, I've seen a completely toasted front bearing, and the truck still drove. The bearing came out in two pieces.
How bad are the brakes? Something you could fix before the weekend? Or is it driveable as-is?
How bad are the brakes? Something you could fix before the weekend? Or is it driveable as-is?
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Re: What would you do?
How many miles is that? I hear about lots of people putting 5x114.3 on 5x115, but never the other way around. That could mean a lot.
As for rentals... Hertz up here rents out AWD SEL V6 2010 Fusions... may be worth considering. I did when rebuilding the trans on the 95.
As for rentals... Hertz up here rents out AWD SEL V6 2010 Fusions... may be worth considering. I did when rebuilding the trans on the 95.

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Re: What would you do?
Budget doesn't allow for a rental.
Rear brakes on the SLE are non-existent. Rear hubs are frozen to the drums with rust (all original, recent discovery). If it wasn't that bad, I could swap rear brakes tonight (Zilla's are only a year old) , but it's out of the question now. We leave in the morning.
Rear brakes on the SLE are non-existent. Rear hubs are frozen to the drums with rust (all original, recent discovery). If it wasn't that bad, I could swap rear brakes tonight (Zilla's are only a year old) , but it's out of the question now. We leave in the morning.
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Re: What would you do?
If that's the case, I'd try mounting the SLE's wheels on the Fusion, carefully seating the wheels and torquing (goes without saying)... and barring any fitment/rubbing issues, pussyfoot it for this trip.
Any speedometer error to be worried about?
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Any speedometer error to be worried about?
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
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Re: What would you do?
Buy new tires that aren't crappy for the Fusion, that is what I would do.
That way, Lisa won't hurt herself when she drives by herself in the future.
That way, Lisa won't hurt herself when she drives by herself in the future.

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Re: What would you do?
Cody, we don't have the budget right now for tires if we don't have the budget (christmas recovery mode) for a rental. We don't have it for tires either, and the tire shop is CLOSED for the evening anyway, and we're leaving early in the morning.

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Re: What would you do?
I would take the Sleeper.
The hubs and brakes will last for this trip.
You could chance torquing the wheels on good and taking a wrench along to retorque for the return run.
The hubs and brakes will last for this trip.
You could chance torquing the wheels on good and taking a wrench along to retorque for the return run.

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Re: What would you do?
Rear brakes don't do *shoot*, and if you're losing it, then they just make you come around half the time in a bonneville anyways. Try a couple hard backup stops and see if the adjusters kick in? Fusion has some good TC/ESP i bet. But it can only do so much with the grip it's given, how bad are they really? Are you considering chains at all? We needed some at Mt Hood skiing once, but that's not nearly as traveled.
We've driven that pass in a snowstorm in the ol' transport, it did alright as far as I remember. They usually keep it clear enough IIRC.
As I look at it, would you rather have the Fusion and have to drive slower/more careful, or the Sleeper and risk (prob not big, but there) breaking down in winter?
We've driven that pass in a snowstorm in the ol' transport, it did alright as far as I remember. They usually keep it clear enough IIRC.
As I look at it, would you rather have the Fusion and have to drive slower/more careful, or the Sleeper and risk (prob not big, but there) breaking down in winter?
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Re: What would you do?
Does that car audio store that we got the tint discount at install wheels? Because they might have an adapter if they do... Honestly, though, would it really hurt to run those wheels on the Fusion for just one trip?
Oh, and FYI, the Fusions do use a thinner sidewall (205 vs. 225), so there will be some discrepancy with the speedo
Oh, and FYI, the Fusions do use a thinner sidewall (205 vs. 225), so there will be some discrepancy with the speedo
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Re: What would you do?
If the wheels will swap with no problems, I would go that way.

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Re: What would you do?
Borrow a car!
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Re: What would you do?
Cancel the trip, return your bricks and mortor, buy new tires.
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Re: What would you do?
How crappy are crappy tires? Tread down low? Dryrot?
Honestly, I would be inclined to just take the fusion, because the wheel swap is an unknown, and possibly a hazard, so are bad brakes, and I wouldnt want a hub to fail catastrophically. You may wish to rotate tires on the fusion as you see fit, put the best ones where you feel they will be their best, and just be prepared.
Honestly, I would be inclined to just take the fusion, because the wheel swap is an unknown, and possibly a hazard, so are bad brakes, and I wouldnt want a hub to fail catastrophically. You may wish to rotate tires on the fusion as you see fit, put the best ones where you feel they will be their best, and just be prepared.
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Re: What would you do?
I would take the SLEeper.
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Re: What would you do?
Take the fusion for sure. especially if it's AWD. swap the tires too.
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Re: What would you do?
The $75 the bricks and mortar cost were paid by Home Depot gift cards from work, common practice along with Starbucks, book store cards, best buy certificates, etc.1fatcat wrote:Cancel the trip, return your bricks and mortor, buy new tires.
Fusion is not AWD, and the tires are crappy in terms of grip, not lack of tread. They're factory delivered tires that came on the car, and they just flat suck in snow and ice, or when it's wet and cold.
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Re: What would you do?
Take SLEper. She'll make it I think. She didn't drive too bad the last time I had her out on the interstate at WCBF '09.
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