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so some know the project I have going now, but looking for input what are all your thoughts on removing the bumper support and maybe using a thin metal tubing setup molded to the shape I want to support the bumper. or using a more substantial piece of aluminum and reduce the weigh but try to maintain an integrity. not sure the path yet but would love to hear opinions from anyone

Oh my... there was a post like this back in the day. The member was ridiculed by ever member on the forum for even coming up with the idea.

I'm not sure about Regals, but the 2000+ front bumper support is aluminum and weighs around 20lbs. Def not something risking your life is worth compared to a few pounds.

Unless you have a 10 second track car don't bother risking your life like this. I'm assuming this is your daily driver.

I'm with them. If you ever drive this car on the street, leave it. It's not worth the little bit of weight savings. You'll be better off removing the entire interior and making an aluminum dash than worrying about the bumper.

2000+ Bonnevilles already have an aluminum dash

If the car is ever driven on public roads, removing or altering any safety related parts is not a good idea; it may be illegal too.

Greyhare wrote:If the car is ever driven on public roads, removing or altering any safety related parts is not a good idea; it may be illegal too.

Flat out honest opinion, it's dangerous, and stupid. Worst part is that you're putting others at risk as well. If you're that worried about weight then dump your seats for racing buckets and save 75 lbs there, get a lightweight battery, get new wheels, etc.

EDIT: Also if you ever had an accident, your Insurance company would probably use it to deny any claim, and also might red flag you to other companies.

all I am going to say to the responses is i can't believe how predictable all you guys are. it is not like I am not going to replace it with something and I am sure I will get flamed for this but honestly why not fix the areas lacking from the factory. I guess I should have expected all the responses from all you here nothing like not being open to new ideas

What material do you plan on replacing it with that is lighter than aluminum?

gigolo wrote:all I am going to say to the responses is i can't believe how predictable all you guys are. it is not like I am not going to replace it with something and I am sure I will get flamed for this but honestly why not fix the areas lacking from the factory. I guess I should have expected all the responses from all you here nothing like not being open to new ideas

Perhaps being more clear in your initial post would have eliminated the safety concerns raised by the members. Furthermore, if you posted that expecting to be reprimanded for safety reasons, how do you turn that around to saying the members are closed minded to new ideas?

Please post your new ideas clearly next time. Being open minded and being stupid about safety are two totally separate issues. Let's not confuse the two.

I suggest getting in touch with Scott over at Intense and see if he will share info on how BadSSEi was setup.

harofreak00 wrote:What material do you plan on replacing it with that is lighter than aluminum?

the front support is solid STEEL I was saying make an ALUMINUM support out of tubing that would also give clearance for a FMHE. or making it out of tubular steel I also said in the first post I would replace it with a new setup.

how do you turn that around to saying the members are closed minded to new ideas?

I never once said close minded those are your words not mine

Being open minded and being stupid about safety are two totally separate issues. Let's not confuse the two.

yet again I never said anything about removing it TOTALLY, I said remove and replace with lighter setup.

I didn't think i would have to specify specifically what car I was talking about because the only 2 cars that are in my "sig" if you will that even remotely relates to this forum is a 1999 Buick regal GS and a 2003 Buick regal GS. I figured ppl could put 2 and 2 together and give some constructive advice

You are the one talking about altering a safety item..

How about you go alter the safety item and show us how much you have improved it.. Or the trial and error there of...

You are the one who asked for opinions... If you don't want them don't ask for them

gigolo wrote:

how do you turn that around to saying the members are closed minded to new ideas?

I never once said close minded those are your words not mine

gigolo wrote: I guess I should have expected all the responses from all you here nothing like not being open to new ideas

it means, or at least comes off as the exact same thing.

This is going nowhere.

the front steel rebar is Very light, and far from "solid" as it is, only a few lbs(give or take) heavier then the aluminum ones.. it is not worth removing it or replacing it with something thats not meant to be there.