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Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:08 pm
by CatmanFS
So you know the temp of the intake air.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:23 am
by CatmanFS
You could put it in the coolant reservoir and know how hot that thing is.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:31 am
by haro1225
These cars already have an intake air temp sensor. And I would think that moving it to the coolant reservoir may damage it because it's meant for air, plus the temperature of the coolant in there can be changed by many factors, making the temp readout useless, unless you just want to see what it is.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:43 am
by 2003 SSEi
Just a question that Don mentioned. Has the car been setup for the 180* thermo with HPTuners??? Even with the 180* in there, the fans wont kick on until the factory setpoint and that is quite High.

even with all the Intercooler BS I have in front of my car I never have seen over 185* in the traffic on the hottest day ever.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:10 pm
by nos4blood70
The car has the fans set to correspond for the 180 tstat. I think I put what I have in the tune, which is Fan 1: 185* and Fan 2: 190*.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:18 pm
by SSEiMan01
I switched it to what the limo had back in the day. But yes, both the 96 and 97 PCM I have have the same tune written to them.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:51 pm
by CatmanFS
Wait, you've never moved the external temp sensor around just to see what kind of readings you would get?

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:48 pm
by SSEiMan01
I have software that allows me to read IATs with the factory sensor in the intake. What more would I need?

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:00 pm
by 00Beast
Dude, the external temp sensor only affects the HVAC and its readout. It has NO bearing on the radiator fans, those are run off of the coolant temp sensor that's in the head, which tells the gauge what to tell you. Putting the external temp sensor in the coolant tank would be A) Stupid, as you'd melt it, and B) Be useless, because you're already getting that information from the gauge. Also, these cars have an Intake Air Temp sensor in the intake tubing that is a parameter readable by any scan tool, so you basically made 2 redundant sensors, and have no idea what the outside temp is. Please stop unless you have something productive to contribute to this discussion.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:06 pm
by CatmanFS
I'm glad that someone as high and mighty as you finally came to set the record straight about putting the external temp sensor in the coolant tank. That's what I've been doing wrong all these years. Thanks for the clarification. If it wasn't for people like you all us dumb people wouldn't know what to do. Thank you. High and mighty. You finally arrived.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:12 pm
by CatmanFS
You know a lot of you guys got a real superiority complex about this stuff. I know that, I was joking. I hope to god that someone wouldn't do that. I just hope that you guys understand that you can use that free sensor sitting up there to do what your hundred dollar scan tool can do for the same purpose. Maybe not everyone can afford that tool, and I was just pointing out that there's a free way to do the same thing. Sorry for bothering you, and everyone else. Putting people down for throwing some random advice in there isn't cool. Dude, you know nobody is going to put that thing in the coolant tank. You make me ashamed to be a car enthusiast.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:13 pm
by 00Beast
That's how you made it sound buddy. Please correct me if your 6 posts talking about the external temp sensor were some sort of code that we were supposed to decipher, or just you trolling.

My problem is when some kid comes on this forum looking for real honest advice, then reads posts by you and has no idea whether you're a mechanic or a troll and tries that kind of thing, then we have to deal with the consequences...

Also, anyone with a smartphone can buy a $15 OBD 2 adapter for their bluetooth off ebay and scan and read/erase codes.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:15 pm
by CatmanFS
Who's trolling? I thought it was a good idea. No joke. It worked for me, I figured I would just throw a joke in there. No harm no foul.

Re: Cooling fans on the SSEi

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:37 pm
by nos4blood70
Also, your automatic climate control won't work if it doesn't get accurate outside air temperature readings. Furthermore, IATs aren't something that is that important to monitor on these cars at stock or near stock levels. KR is more important along with trans temp. Now don't go putting the external temperature sensor in your trans. :P