Rough Idle, '96 Regal, 3.8L

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Rough Idle, '96 Regal, 3.8L

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Hi all,

My 1996, Buick Regal, 3.8L, series II, 165,000 miles; has recently began to idle roughly. I'm hoping someone has some ideas to help me fix this.

Symptoms: Rough Idle. When driving everything is fine (smooth as can be). When I get to a stop sign or light and have to stop - rough idle again. It's a bit better when the car warms up. Misfires (cylinder 3) at start up every morning. It's been rough for about 3 days - just started.

Haven't noticed any significant loss in mpg.

Codes: misfire in cylinder 3 (over and over - only at idle).

Ruled out: Plugs, wires, and coils are fine. Vacuum off manifold is low at 15, with a slight jiggle on the guage.

I replaced the UIM, and LIM gaskets in the spring of 2007. Mainly preventive, they were not leaking. I'm thinking maybe the UIM gasket has an air leak, but how do I pin that down? The other vacuun lines looked ok.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Re: Rough Idle, '96 Regal, 3.8L

Post by wjcollier07 »

how you know the wires are fine?

i'd personally start with running a good concentrated mix of seafoam in the gas and through the intake.

i definitely wouldn't rule out LIM gasket...could very well be some coolant getting in there.
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Re: Rough Idle, '96 Regal, 3.8L

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Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

Swapped s.p. wire from cylinder (3) with known good wire and ohmed out both - they're good. Recently (3 months ago) changed the front plugs/wires. I still have to get to the rear plugs/wires (they have 70K on 'em). Since the consistent code is a misfire on cylinder 3 - that's where I focused. Changed that plug too.

Did the spark test on the coils, they all spark (one at a time when unplugged) with IAC unplugged, and engine running.

I'll probably bring it to the dealer in the morning, as I don't have a lot of time to mess with this. Maybe they can point me in the right direction. I'm thinking a manifold gasket for the plenum. Hoping it's not valves.
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Re: Rough Idle, '96 Regal, 3.8L - Fixed

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All Fixed Up!

The culprit was a leaking o-ring on a fuel injector.

Popped the fuel rail, put on new seals - good to go. No more misfires, runs like a champ.
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Re: Rough Idle, '96 Regal, 3.8L

Post by bill buttermore »

Thanks for posting the fix. :wink: It will help others. Please consider adding "fixed" to the title of the post to make this information more valuable to those searching for solutions to idle problems.
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