Good bye GXP, Hellloowww GTO

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Good bye GXP, Hellloowww GTO

Post by 1tinindian »

The time has come to move on.
My Bonneville GXP now has a new owner, and I have been taken by the Holden bug, and bought a sweet, low mileage, one owner, 2006 GTO, 1 of 632 with the 6 speed, 18" wheels and painted Spice Red Metallic.

The evening I sold the GXP
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The night I bought the GTO.
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I have been in close discussion with Lane through this process, and many thanks to him, as he took time out to personally inspect a GTO in Chicago for me, and advise on what to look for and what to avoid, to get a quality GTO, and I feel very confident that I have a sweet, well taken care of, 100% stock survivor.

The GXP was a fun car, and in some ways I do miss it, but the LS2 and 6 speed in the GTO seems to sooth any feelings I had for the Bonneville.

I still haven't had the time to wash and detail the GTO, so my pictures are very few right now, but I'll share what I have at this point.



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Re: Good bye GXP, Hellloowww GTO

Post by redfury »

Friend of mine at work ( bosses grandson ) has one in all black with the 6 speed. It has headers and he just had to replace the clutch and pressure plate ( broken springs ). The thing is a BEAST. He ate through a set of rear tires in 20k. What a nice car..congrats.
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Re: Good bye GXP, Hellloowww GTO

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Clutches are the weak link behind any LSx motor on purpose. Saves from breaking more expensive hardware. I've replaced my fair share of them and have Monster Level 4 now.
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Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

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2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Nice swap and beautiful GTO, congratulations on your new ride that I am sure you will cherish and enjoy.
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Post by 00Beast »

Looks good Leon!!! I hope to see more of it, considering I'm moving to the neighborhood soon.
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Re: Good bye GXP, Hellloowww GTO

Post by Yagyu »

That's one hell of a car. When my SSEi bites the dust, I'm hoping to replace it with an 05-06 GTO or a G8 GXP also. Gotta love those Holdens.
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What's wrong with an '04?
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2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*

Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
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Nothing's wrong with it, I'd just rather have an LS2 than an LS1. I like the hood scoop better too. I mean, don't get me wrong, the '04 is cool too, I just like the other ones better.
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-ZZP Powerlog
-Flowmaster 80 Series exhaust
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-Overkill ASI short ram intake w/ Spectre filter
-Overkill tuned PCM
-Drilled and slotted rotors
-NGK spark plugs (2 heat ranges colder)
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Re: Good bye GXP, Hellloowww GTO

Post by CMNTMXR57 »

It's the same car underneath.

Many have retrofitted an '05/'06 hood onto an '04 ( I saw a torrid red '04 today with an '05/'06 hood), as well as rear valence panel and altering the exhaust outlets.
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2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*

Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Isn't it a different engine though? '04 has 5.7L 350HP LS1 and '05-'06 has 6.0L LS2 with 400HP?
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-ZZP Powerlog
-Flowmaster 80 Series exhaust
-160 degree Tstat
-Overkill ASI short ram intake w/ Spectre filter
-Overkill tuned PCM
-Drilled and slotted rotors
-NGK spark plugs (2 heat ranges colder)
-Optima Yellow Top battery
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Post by CMNTMXR57 »

Yes. But 18 cubic inches isn't the night and day difference many make it out to be. If you're planning on keeping it stock or bolt-ons, then yes, it is more powerful than an LS1. But if you're going to build something serious, say a heads and cammed engine, a stroker motor, or putting on a big blower (like a TVS 2300 or something) along with forging, many will argue that the LS1 is a better/more stout base to build upon. LS2's were prone to oil pump failures also.

The LS1 is a GenIII motor, the LS2 is a GenIV motor, based on the GenIII, but was developed with D.O.D. in mind (note the LS2 doesn't have D.O.D., but other GenIV motors, like the LS4 and truck variants do).
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2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*

Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Not gonna argue with you on that! I know you know your *shoot*, probably way better than I do. I still prefer the '05-'06 version, but no accounting for taste, right?
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-3.4" supercharger pulley
-ZZP Powerlog
-Flowmaster 80 Series exhaust
-160 degree Tstat
-Overkill ASI short ram intake w/ Spectre filter
-Overkill tuned PCM
-Drilled and slotted rotors
-NGK spark plugs (2 heat ranges colder)
-Optima Yellow Top battery
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Post by CMNTMXR57 »

I get it. Just like Leon, he had specific wants. I just don't want someone to pass up a good vehicle simply because it doesn't look as good on paper as later versions if you follow what I mean. Even I look at GTO's as a DD, and tend to look at the '05/'06 cars as I want certain color or option combos. I'm happy with either engine.

I'm also one of the few that don't like the hood scoops on the LS2 cars. I like the flat hood like my '04. Believe it or not, that was an actual option in '05. You could actually get an '05 with the flat hood from the factory... but there were very few that have that RPO. So that is a rare car.
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2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*

Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Kudos to you Lane for helping him out with what to avoid to choose a good car!

Congrats on the GTO.
She's a beauty!
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Post by 1tinindian »

Thanks guys.
And yes, Lane has been VERY helpful to helping me sort through the "well-used" GTOs, and the much better ones.
I have over 100 pictures now, so I can show you all a couple here.

Leon

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Whoa-when you said "low mileage" I never imagined mileage that low.
Your car was hardly used---and a real beauty!
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Leon, that thing is gonna look completely different once you get those PVD chromed 18's on it. It is gonna "pop" in the sun.
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2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*

Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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CMNTMXR57 wrote:Leon, that thing is gonna look completely different once you get those PVD chromed 18's on it. It is gonna "pop" in the sun.
Agreed!
I can't wait!
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Sorry about the pictures, Photobucket is down. But, I have GTO pictures in my gallery here. Thanks,
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