ZZP CAI

[terrancew3]

So in all reality, wherever the filter is, either way its gonna be hot air after awhile.

[xxdabroxx]

I think that my IAT sensor may get heat soaked an read a higher temp than the air that is flowing through the throttle body actually is. I can't see the air getting heated from the tube in the split second that it passes through. I am thinking about wrapping the tube in something though to try and stop that from happening so much. Just can't find an affordable good looking solution.

Either way, the cooler air you feed the blower the cooler the air will be on the other side. I figure its going to gain X amount of degrees through the compression process no matter the intake temp. Say you start at 80* + 30* in the blower (wild ass guess, no real data there) then if you started with 90* + 30* you end up with a higher combustion chamber temp. Although I have no method for measuring this hypothesis.

Also, what changed your mind since august on the CAI"

Grand Prix guys usually cheap out just so they can hear the whine. You will want to duct the intake somewhere where it will receive air as close to ambient as possible.

[terrancew3]

Also, what changed your mind since august on the CAI"

I just haven't really thought about it. I wanna go ahead and do this, but I'm trying to find the best possible way to do it. I want performance and looks to be good. Not just a chunk of tubing tossed in with a filter on it. I would like something that looks nice, but still serves the purpose to add extra HP and noise under the hood.

[xxdabroxx]

Also, what changed your mind since august on the CAI"

I just haven't really thought about it. I wanna go ahead and do this, but I'm trying to find the best possible way to do it. I want performance and looks to be good. Not just a chunk of tubing tossed in with a filter on it. I would like something that looks nice, but still serves the purpose to add extra HP and noise under the hood.

I was quoting NOS, I remembered an old post of his about FWI's. I don't think the FWI looks any worse than the factory airbox. I think they look racy not blingy. If that makes any sense.

[terrancew3]

I don't know. I'd rather have a solid tube than a flexible hose. It just looks like a dryer vent for intake to me. A hard plastic molded tube or aluminum would look better in my eyes, even though they serve the same purpose. It all comes down to aesthetics

[nos4blood70]

I read a couple of threads and stuff on different forums and from different people. Also see many extremely high power 3800s with simple open intakes.

This thread is a good read as well:
http://www.grandprixforums.net/threads/ ... one-Intake

[xxdabroxx]

I think there is some Bro science going on in that thread. I'm guessing that was with an open hood and giant fan blowing ambient air at the car. Like the other guys mentioned over there, lean makes more power. Ever driven a nitro RC car, right before they run out of fuel they run like a striped ass ape, then shut down. Lean definitely makes more power given same volume of combustion air.

I gutted my stock airbox, but when I went with the Intense stage 1 kit it came with the intake. I don't think an intake is worth that much until you're doing more to the engine.

[nos4blood70]

If it were me, I'd say screw the $250 FWI, and save up for even a short stack intercooler.

Although, the short stacks are known to heat soak badly as well. So that can only give some insight as to what is going on without any kind of IC, regardless of what is feeding the air into the throttle body...

[xxdabroxx]

IC is definitely the way to go. But now that I have one I'm not ditching my FWI. I am thinking about making a scoop to go on the plastic filler panel that goes below the bumper. I'm thinking I can mold something out of Kydex and rivet it to the factory part minus a big hole to feed the air filter. Trim the bottom lip of the bumper and bam, pontiac ram air scoop.

something almost sorta kinda like this but not at all. haha

[nos4blood70]

Or you can go super racekar and delete the driver side fog light and stick the cone in there! Hahahaha.

When I was considering going turbo, I was gonna cut out the license plate area and the fogs and put the IC core back there.

[xxdabroxx]

I think my OCD wouldn't allow me to only take out one fog. The thought has definitely crossed my mind though.

[nos4blood70]

Or do what Paul did and turn the turn signal into a ram air intake of sorts.

[flatlander745]

Is there a write-up for a DIY CAI?

[nos4blood70]

Not really, you just need to find a way to get the filter into and down the hole behind the headlight, and attach it to the TB. Gotta use flexible tubing unless you want false KR.

[flatlander745]

Ok, didn't ZZP have one for the Bonneville, $180.00? I'm not seeing it on their site now. It came with the PCM tray.

[flatlander745]

NM, it's on Intense.

http://intense-racing.com/Merchant2/mer ... _Induction

[terrancew3]

Too late, I installed an intake already. Works and sounds great. Lol