How is the difference in insurance?LeSabre in Buffalo wrote:Tell him a forum member with a Cruze Eco is AVERAGING 44 mpg. I'm saving a good chunk in gas compared to my old Buick.
Well, the payments suck. But at least the $1200 in gas savings a year compared to my old car is easing some of the sting.
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Jacob, Dark Green 1997 SSEi "The Green Lantern" Over 268,000 Miles and Still Going Strong!

Mods/Stuff: INTENSE! FWI, ScanGauge 2, Mobil 1 HM Oil, Valvoline HM Transmission Fluid, Mildly Tuned PCM, Drilled 180 Thermostat, Cleared Corners, Silverstars, Chrome T-Stars, NGK Iridium Plugs, NAPA Belden Wires.

Mods/Stuff: INTENSE! FWI, ScanGauge 2, Mobil 1 HM Oil, Valvoline HM Transmission Fluid, Mildly Tuned PCM, Drilled 180 Thermostat, Cleared Corners, Silverstars, Chrome T-Stars, NGK Iridium Plugs, NAPA Belden Wires.
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Re: 2012 Cruze Eco - or how the engineers snookered the MBA'
My insurance on the Cruze is a few dollars a year less than the insurance on the Buick. I shopped around after sticker shock from my old insurance. It was a real eye-opener finding out how different companies quoted the car.
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Re: 2012 Cruze Eco - or how the engineers snookered the MBA'
Where's the pictures of the new winter wheels!?!

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Re: 2012 Cruze Eco - or how the engineers snookered the MBA'
That's why you shop for insurance (and on other things) Every six months or so. Saves big $.LeSabre in Buffalo wrote:My insurance on the Cruze is a few dollars a year less than the insurance on the Buick. I shopped around after sticker shock from my old insurance. It was a real eye-opener finding out how different companies quoted the car.
Jacob, Dark Green 1997 SSEi "The Green Lantern" Over 268,000 Miles and Still Going Strong!

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Mods/Stuff: INTENSE! FWI, ScanGauge 2, Mobil 1 HM Oil, Valvoline HM Transmission Fluid, Mildly Tuned PCM, Drilled 180 Thermostat, Cleared Corners, Silverstars, Chrome T-Stars, NGK Iridium Plugs, NAPA Belden Wires.
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PRD2BDF wrote:Where's the pictures of the new winter wheels!?!
Coming in a month. That's when the Nokians (yes, I splurged on Nokian R snows) on Rage A5 wheels go on. They're 16" instead of the 17" OEM wheels. They're not the prettiest wheel out there. For winter they'll work fine, and keep the chrome OEM wheels all pristine.
I've never used a low-rolling-resistance snow tire before. Here's hoping the fuel economy hit won't be as bad as regular snows.
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Here are a few updates arriving in a week or two:
1. Tune. This netted an automatic 1.4t Cruze 30 hp and 50 ft/lbs at the wheels, for 152 hp and 193 ft/lbs. Stock was 116 hp and 140 ft/lbs. I'm budgeting for a clutch replacement in a year or so. The OEM pressure plate is trash, and doesn't release consistently. I'll be glad to be rid of it.
2. Fog lamps
3. Headlight relay harness parts
I'm getting all the modding I want done at the start of its life. Later on when I'm busy with life I'll have the car modded to where I wanted it.
1. Tune. This netted an automatic 1.4t Cruze 30 hp and 50 ft/lbs at the wheels, for 152 hp and 193 ft/lbs. Stock was 116 hp and 140 ft/lbs. I'm budgeting for a clutch replacement in a year or so. The OEM pressure plate is trash, and doesn't release consistently. I'll be glad to be rid of it.
2. Fog lamps
3. Headlight relay harness parts
I'm getting all the modding I want done at the start of its life. Later on when I'm busy with life I'll have the car modded to where I wanted it.
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Bringing this back from the way-back...
It's been a looooong time since I was active on here. I've spent a lot of that time in the Cruze, having put on many miles for work. I ended up getting the tune and foglights, and installing a headlight harness. Much better!
In just under 2 years of ownership, I've had very few issues. The trunk switch stopped working and the transmission fluid needed changing early on to correct a 1-2 shift grind. The transmission grind only happens on the 1-2 shift above 5800 RPM when really flogging the now-tuned car, or almost never, and the fob has a trunk switch, so whatever.
I'm happy with the Cruze, and GM for making such a fun to drive and efficient smaller car!
It's been a looooong time since I was active on here. I've spent a lot of that time in the Cruze, having put on many miles for work. I ended up getting the tune and foglights, and installing a headlight harness. Much better!
In just under 2 years of ownership, I've had very few issues. The trunk switch stopped working and the transmission fluid needed changing early on to correct a 1-2 shift grind. The transmission grind only happens on the 1-2 shift above 5800 RPM when really flogging the now-tuned car, or almost never, and the fob has a trunk switch, so whatever.
I'm happy with the Cruze, and GM for making such a fun to drive and efficient smaller car!
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Re: 2012 Cruze Eco - or how the engineers snookered the MBA'
Wow, a grinding shift on a 2 year old car? Seriously? How is that acceptable?
Something like that would make me sick if it was mine.
Something like that would make me sick if it was mine.
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Re: 2012 Cruze Eco - or how the engineers snookered the MBA'
Could have something to do with the fact that Dave added 30hp and 50lb-ft...

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Where did you get the tune?
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GM put in Castrol as factory fill.RJolly87 wrote:Wow, a grinding shift on a 2 year old car? Seriously? How is that acceptable?
Something like that would make me sick if it was mine.
I still like driving this car, even after owning it for ~2 years now. The darn thing still makes me look twice when it's all shined up. So far it's been pretty reliable, too. Good car.
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Wow Dave you have put serious miles on that car... Do you run synthetic oil in it?
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Glad you decided to visit. Don't stay gone so long and keep us up to date on the Cruze. The middle daughter has had no issues with her's. It'll be 2 years old before long and has 40K+ miles on it. I enjoyed driving it the two times I have. - BCLeSabre in Buffalo wrote:Bringing this back from the way-back...
It's been a looooong time since I was active on here. I've spent a lot of that time in the Cruze, having put on many miles for work. I ended up getting the tune and foglights, and installing a headlight harness. Much better!
In just under 2 years of ownership, I've had very few issues. The trunk switch stopped working and the transmission fluid needed changing early on to correct a 1-2 shift grind. The transmission grind only happens on the 1-2 shift above 5800 RPM when really flogging the now-tuned car, or almost never, and the fob has a trunk switch, so whatever.
I'm happy with the Cruze, and GM for making such a fun to drive and efficient smaller car!
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Re: 2012 Cruze Eco - or how the engineers snookered the MBA'
Not a good sign if its grinding between gears, but it's hard for me to get how power could make that happen. Almost figure a couple missed shifts, or something broke in the trans.repinS wrote:Could have something to do with the fact that Dave added 30hp and 50lb-ft...
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