Paint sealant or wax?
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Paint sealant or wax?
I am wondering about some things I have heard regarding sealants vs. waxes.
I know a good bit about detailing, but this is one thing I am unsure of.
I have heard that Sealant should be used INSTEAD of wax and that if you wax on top of sealant (like I do), that it will render the sealant "ineffective" so to speak. And that because sealant can tolerate more heat, hence protecting the paint more (?), wax should not be used on paint that has a sealant on it.
For the record when I wax, every other wax I use sealant. Anytime I do a detail for someone, I usually do Clay bar, Compound, Swirl remover, Glaze or polish, Sealant, and then wax. Based on this chart; http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/autogeek/flowchart.jpg
I am basically asking, Should sealant be used INSTEAD of wax, or is using sealant and then following that with a coat of wax a good idea?
I know a good bit about detailing, but this is one thing I am unsure of.
I have heard that Sealant should be used INSTEAD of wax and that if you wax on top of sealant (like I do), that it will render the sealant "ineffective" so to speak. And that because sealant can tolerate more heat, hence protecting the paint more (?), wax should not be used on paint that has a sealant on it.
For the record when I wax, every other wax I use sealant. Anytime I do a detail for someone, I usually do Clay bar, Compound, Swirl remover, Glaze or polish, Sealant, and then wax. Based on this chart; http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/autogeek/flowchart.jpg
I am basically asking, Should sealant be used INSTEAD of wax, or is using sealant and then following that with a coat of wax a good idea?
Will
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02 Bonneville SSEi | 171k mi | Black w/Neutral Int. | Backup and road trip car
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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Your chart says you can use both.
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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Yes, but the information I heard was from a person who does work on restoring paint not just repainting, and was wondering if anybody has heard anything one way or the other.
Will
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92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
02 Bonneville SSEi | 171k mi | Black w/Neutral Int. | Backup and road trip car
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 165K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
02 Bonneville SSEi | 171k mi | Black w/Neutral Int. | Backup and road trip car
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Sealant lasts longer than wax. Hence it creates a good base that you can wax over for a while. Sealant then wax will work fine. 
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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Glad to know I haven't been doing something wrong,in terms of the paint on my car anyway
Will
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92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
02 Bonneville SSEi | 171k mi | Black w/Neutral Int. | Backup and road trip car
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 165K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
02 Bonneville SSEi | 171k mi | Black w/Neutral Int. | Backup and road trip car
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 165K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily
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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Wax over sealant is the best of both worlds.
What products are you using?
What products are you using?

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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Yes, put the wax over a sealant. They're complimentary, not mutually exclusive.
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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Will listen to Tom (95SLE) he knows his stuff..i made this for him about a year ago



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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
I use Meguiars ULTIMATE products and if necessary, I am also a fan of the Professional Meguiars line.
As for wax, on my own cars I use Pinnacle Souveran, Liquid or paste depending on colour. Anything else, with some exceptions, gets Ultimate liquid or paste.
Wake, I like that picture... nice work
As for wax, on my own cars I use Pinnacle Souveran, Liquid or paste depending on colour. Anything else, with some exceptions, gets Ultimate liquid or paste.
Wake, I like that picture... nice work
Will
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
02 Bonneville SSEi | 171k mi | Black w/Neutral Int. | Backup and road trip car
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 165K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
02 Bonneville SSEi | 171k mi | Black w/Neutral Int. | Backup and road trip car
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 165K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily
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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Will:SSEiMan01 wrote:I use Meguiars ULTIMATE products and if necessary, I am also a fan of the Professional Meguiars line.
As for wax, on my own cars I use Pinnacle Souveran, Liquid or paste depending on colour. Anything else, with some exceptions, gets Ultimate liquid or paste.
You should try Fuzion as a winter wax. Apply 2 coats 24 hours apart for a nice finish that will last you all winter. Then go back to the Souveran in the spring/summer.
I had been using liquid Souveran on light colors and picked up a tub of paste Souveran earlier this spring. I am very happy with the Souveran on dark colors.

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Re: Paint sealant or wax?
Definitely use both! I used Liquid Glass (sealant) under Meguiars NXT (wax) and the result was great, hid a lot of surface imperfections and added a deep shine.
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