Honey comb?

dave1764 · Post by **dave1764** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:15 pm

Is there any good things that come from taking the honey comb out of the throttle body? Someone said that it would help air intake?

bonnevillain · Post by **bonnevillain** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:36 pm

it's proven to be not restrictive up to 450HP or so, and your idle quality will suffer greatly if you do (go ahead and try it, i did. my idle was horrible.)
the screen is there to keep the air flow smooth and constant so the MAF sensor can read the air properly... taking it out reduces the ability of the sensor to do so.

it's not worth it.

Pontiacdad · Post by **Pontiacdad** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:28 am

When I had a gutted air box I removed the honeycomb and thought the throttle response was a bit better with no poor idle issues.

However when I moved up to the fwi I was getting a bit of stumble without on hard take offs.

Try it for a few days without and decide for yourself.

bonnevillain · Post by **bonnevillain** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:21 am

id agree... go ahead and try it, but IMO it wasn't worth any small gain in response for the rough running.

Dirthead Racing · Post by **Dirthead Racing** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:50 pm

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix ... .php?id=32

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix ... .php?id=22

"We learned that MAF screens slow down air considerably and removing them will provide more air increase than a larger TB will at times. This does not always equal more HP because the MAF can read improperly but does make for interesting possibilities"

FWIW

Boreas · Post by **Boreas** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:41 pm

I had an improvement in acceleration but at great cost to fuel economy. I put it back in and its better overall with it in.

Forgot to mention this was done on my 93 SE (L27)

Hans · Post by **Hans** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:03 pm

you need a set of snap ring plyers to remove it:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sn ... tnG=Search

that is the reccomended tool at least.

willwren · Post by **willwren** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:41 pm

You can remove it with a ball point pen.

But I suggest you leave it.

bs009 · Post by **bs009** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:16 pm

how bad would removing it effect gas mileage?

BonneMe · Post by **BonneMe** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:25 am

It's restrictive, 450hp or not. I'd love to see the test stating otherwise

But if it's worth it, that's another story.

bs009 wrote:how bad would removing it effect gas mileage?

Depends on your right foot, and how the MAF readings are/aren't affected.

willwren · Post by **willwren** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:44 am

Restrictive or not, it's purpose is to make sure the MAF sensor can get an accurate reading. You can flow all you want, but if the sensor is screwy because of disrupted airflow, you'll run like dog meat.

Leave the MAF screen in place.

spidey3479 · Post by **spidey3479** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:06 am

I tried it and hated the idle. I did not see any real gain in takeoff w/o the sensor. The old girl ran much better after I cleaned the sensor properly, though.

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