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 Post subject: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:43 pm 
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It is official. My Bonneville is no longer in my possession.
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It has been a fun ride, but I saw the writing on the wall before (I think) it was going to become a money pit. Hopefully her parts come to good use at the junkyard I left her at.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
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So what happened to it that made it go to a junkyard?

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:12 pm 
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108,000 is not a lot of miles on these cars.
Did the salt in our great rustbelt Midwest get to it?


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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:47 am 
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I was gonna say, 108k is just finishing the break-in period on a 3800... :)

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:55 pm 
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I would have loved to give you scrap price for this car, fixed it up and made an easy $2-3k. I think you gave up way to easy.

$10 says the salvage yard will do the repairs and flip it.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:06 pm 
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My guess is that there looks to be a rust issue, along with the smaller, easier to fix items...
I probably wouldn't be inclined to put a lot into this either. Too bad really. It's low mileage and at first glance seems to be in decent condition.
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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:30 pm 
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The shop will be lucky if they get $500 for the car.

The car ran great; it is just that the car's rust was starting to get bad under the car. The rust by the gas filler cap was starting to get VERY bad.

Uh there was a gas leak at the fuel filter (my shop claimed that they might break the fuel line if they tried to replace it), the headliner was starting to sag quite a bit, there was a coolant leak from the LIM (leaking onto the exterior of the engine block), a misfire on cylinder 3 developed after it sat for a bit (which would be fixed with a replaced ignition coil), there was a small squeak that made noise only once in a while - on the driver's front wheel (I think it had to do with suspension), the transmission seemed to be having issues (hard shifting at times, probably solenoid related), and the sunroof wasn't sitting properly, letting water in - no matter what I did to try to get the sunroof to sit flush like it is supposed to. I ended up duct taping the sunroof shut so I didn't have to worry about leaks.

If there wasn't a fuel leak, I'd still own the car and use it as a winter beater. I don't think my car would be worth a ton - even if the issues above were fixed (which would cost over $1,000 easily) because of the rust and other cosmetics - such as the front passenger fender being dented in by an 18 year old me, trying to slide around a corner with snow covering the parking lot, scratches everywhere, the taped up sunroof, etc.

108,500 miles isn't much, but many things weren't changed on the car because of mileage (spark plugs/wires, ignition coil, fuel filter, LIM gasket, brake fluid, motor mounts).

Sorry for the long and detailed post; I should've paid better attention to my post.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:53 pm 
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A lot of that stuff is DIY with a little guidance from forum members and some tools. Even the fuel leak, although not something you may want to tackle, has workarounds in the event something happens when it's taken apart.

The deal breaker for me would have been all the rust. Based on you pictures and descriptions, I wouldn't put money into it. But, that's me. Some would and there's nothing wrong with that either as long as realistic expectations are maintained about what someone will get out of it.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:06 am 
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Your laundry list of problems is something that I deal with on EVERY car that comes through the shop.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:27 am 
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harofreak00 wrote:
Your laundry list of problems is something that I deal with on EVERY car that comes through the shop.


I was going to say, aside from the headliner I think I've either dealt with, or am dealing with every one of those issues and more.

The again, I like to suffer. Enjoy the new car!

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:25 am 
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I sympathize with the OP here. If cars are a hobby or an occupation, that's one thing. This isn't where everyone is at or wants to be. I've done a lot of things to my car, but I'd draw the line at extensive rust repairs as well.


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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:49 pm 
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Well if you listen to the Democrats, we will all be forced to drive EV's in just a few years.
Anyone still driving gas engine vehicles will be forced to pay HUGE insurance costs...... but fuel will be dirt cheap!

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:34 am 
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I'm sure I could've fixed many of the issues with help from the forum, as I've done in the past. But I feel that if I fixed all the problems with the car (not including rust), I'm sure something else would've popped up that was more serious, such as the fuel lines actually rusting out. They were on that track. Many suspension components would've probably failed too - especially the rear shocks. They still worked, but the rust was starting to get bad.

The rust is the main reason I got rid of my car when I did. It was spreading pretty fast up near the front of the car. Also, due to my two jobs, both keeping me occupied quite a bit, I don't have a ton of time to be working on the Bonnie.

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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:32 am 
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Rust... LOL! You should see our old van. It loses weight daily.

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Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

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2007 Chrysler Town & Country Limited: Daddy's beater affectionately called the Rolling Garbage Can or "RGC" for short
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2009 Chevrolet Impala SS: LS4 V8, Victory Red
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 Post subject: Re: The end of an era.
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2000Silverbullet wrote:
Well if you listen to the Democrats, we will all be forced to drive EV's in just a few years.
Anyone still driving gas engine vehicles will be forced to pay HUGE insurance costs...... but fuel will be dirt cheap!


Did you know even putin/Russia joined the Paris Climate Accord?
That should tell you something about how serious the situation is. I am old enough that odds are I will be dead before the earth is almost unlivable if we continue to pollute at the rate we are. Fossil fuel only makes the oil companies richer, the earth dirtier. New energy technology will create lots of jobs, hopefully good paying jobs. - jmho - BC

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2000Silverbullet wrote:
Well if you listen to the Democrats, we will all be forced to drive EV's in just a few years.
Anyone still driving gas engine vehicles will be forced to pay HUGE insurance costs...... but fuel will be dirt cheap!


Did you know even putin/Russia joined the Paris Climate Accord?
That should tell you something about how serious the situation is. I am old enough that odds are I will be dead before the earth is almost unlivable if we continue to pollute at the rate we are. Fossil fuel only makes the oil companies richer, the earth dirtier. New energy technology will create lots of jobs, hopefully good paying jobs. - jmho - BC

You do understand that global climate change is a giant hoax and is only being pushed to try to control free countries. https://youtu.be/TjlmFr4FMvI, https://youtu.be/BQHhDxRuTkI, https://youtu.be/S-nsU_DaIZE.
Other than me disagreeing with the "millions of years" which are pushed by evolution believers, I personally believe in God. But that beside the fact of the actual truth of the carbon/carbon dioxide use.
If you get CO2 too low the earth DIES cause plants die. Also so since the satellite info proving that the Earth is greener than in past since checking for green on the surface. Also the big lie about the ozone layer as we know it never was being harmed (unless we destroy the salt oceans completely) the "holes" are normal. Ozones biggest creator is salty ocean waters reacting with iron rich Earth's crust. It's second producer is lightning in upper atmosphere. Also listen to the guy talk about liquid fuel produced from coal.
God gave us what we need. It's here we just have to properly use it.
There is a company trying to get started to start "mining" plastics stuck in ocean whirlpools, said to be multibillion dollar industry plan and most people fail to understand that all plastics can be separated, and recycled for specific uses.


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