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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:23 pm 
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I'm sorry to ask this question here, but I'm goona.
Recently I picked up a 1996 Pontiac Sunfire to keep the gas savings to and from work under control (I have a 1hr 10min commute each way) and I noticed the car has Dex in it. It is a 2.2L 4-banger. Should I drain the Dex and replace with something else in fear of wrotting out gaskets and other things it can get its hands on? If so, what should I use?

(This question is somewhat related to Bonnevilles as the gas savings from the Sunfire should prevent the need of me selling my 1993 SSEi :wink: )

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:14 am 
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I haven't heard about problems with the gaskets in those.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:24 am 
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Moved to Your Other Ride. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:52 am 
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I've never heard of anything, but if it's never been changed, with the warmer temperatures of the summer coming perhaps you could look into a drain, flush & replacement with any color prestone.
Cheap insurance if you ask me.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:36 am 
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Thanks, Jerry for moving this for me.

You're right, it is cheap insurance as I have no idea when it was last changed (if ever)
I'm planning on piling on a whole lot of miles onto this car, so fluid changes are a small price to pay considering my expectations.
It's a beast, but a nice little car that will save lots of gas. It only cost me $600.00 and the previous owner put new brakes, exhaust, tires and fuel lines. The A/C even works! Needs a little bondo here and there and off it goes!

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:13 am 
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You can pretty much run what coolant you like... But I would at the least recommend a flush and run what ever floats you boat... Just keep in mind if the motor has ever been run hot it will be head gasket issues.. Its quite common with the 2.2 to have some head warp and a leaking head gasket, usually towards the rear of the engine...

Aside from that I have seen those little 2.2's gain some serious miles... Pretty good gas mileage in that sunfire too...


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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:21 pm 
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Ya, the 2.2s are very good little motors. I have one in my Sonoma and it does quite well, even for being in a truck. We've had three Cavaliers in the past - all with the 2.2 and we piled some serious miles on all of them. They all ran very well even we sold them with over 200K.

How many miles are on it?

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 1:32 am 
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It has 129000km, so I think that works out to about 80,100 miles. It's a 2 door 5 speed, so that will be fun at least. It's been a while since I've had a 5 speed.
The previous owner just changed the brakes, exhaust and put new tires on it. He is a mechanic at a Kia dealership, so I'm sure he took care of it. His wife was planning on driving it, and last minute they decided to sell it as she wanted a truck. Not a bad little car for $600.00! It needs some bondo work, a bit of rust developed behind the door and a hole is starting to show, so I'll patch that up. I'll get some pics up to show off my radical bondo skills :wink:

Thanks for the advice, btw all. Sounds like running Dex will be okay for this little car, but I'll do a flush and fill and change the thermostat to keep it cool. Summer's coming!

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:48 am 
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The good thing is that the 5 speed will make it drivable :wink:


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and with the 5 speed you should see 28+ mpg! :banana:

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30 + MPG is easily attainable in that car even in an automatic. Heck, I get 26 MPG out of my automatic Sonoma with the 2.2 and 160K.

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dads s10's got the 2.2 with a 5 speed..and with no topper where seeing 29 MPG then again we just did (fuel filter,air filter,plugs and wires) etc so its pretty much on top

these motors though are really easy to maintain and really solid although i dont care for there performance or lack there of..i cant argue with there high mileage capabilities and there fuel mileage lol

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