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Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:47 am
by nailbomb3
I went and grabbed some plugs today, meaning to get the TR-55 V-Power's and instead wound up walking out with TR55GP's.

Is this going to be an issue at all? It looks like the OEM Delco's were in fact a Platinum tipped plug?

It seems an awful LOT of people on here are fond of the regular TR55 V-Power. Is there some particular reason to prefer the TR55 over the TR55GP?

Thanks :D

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:54 am
by spoiledred94
That's what I heard here too, years ago. That's what I use now, the V power NGK. Supposedly the platinum plugs cause issues in a high compression engine like in the SC engines.

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:18 am
by RJolly87
The big issue is the ignition system. Ours use a waste spark system, where the plug fires during ignition and exhaust strokes. Supercharged is worse and can detonate plugs. NA can usually get away with it, but plugs dont last as long. General preference is copper or iridium.

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:18 am
by 00Beast
Take 'em back and get copper...

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:15 pm
by Jrs3800
There is nothing wrong with those NGK plats in an NA application... But if you have not used them you could take them back and get the Copper NGK's and save a few bucks...

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:42 pm
by nailbomb3
00Beast wrote:Take 'em back and get copper...
That's the plan! Seems like it would also be easier to 'read' the copper ones with their more traditional electrode. Thanks guys!

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:45 pm
by nailbomb3
Gap should be .060 right?

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:22 am
by spoiledred94
55-60

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:07 am
by Jrs3800
nailbomb3 wrote:Gap should be .060 right?
Correct... :beerchug:

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:28 am
by SSEBonne4evr
Copper is king on my Bonneville,s, tried Bosch platinum once, never again!

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:06 pm
by nailbomb3
Swapped em out today, BUT this looks wrong to me:

Here's the back plugs:

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And here's the front:

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These would be from left to right as if you were sitting in the drivers seat. So if I have this firing order/cyl chart right it looks like the way cleaner plug is from CYL #6.

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:02 pm
by RJolly87
Are you using coolant?

That is weird...

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:21 pm
by nailbomb3
Ummm, yeah its got coolant in it. It got flushed and filled last Febuary or so.

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:27 pm
by RJolly87
But it isn't leaking or ingesting any?

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:44 pm
by nailbomb3
No, it isn't. We pressure tested it at the time and everything was golden.

Why do you ask? Thanks! To me it looks like #6 is running lean.

ETA: Went out and checked the radiator. It's full to the rim :D

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:36 am
by spoiledred94
I hate to have to pipe in on this but my #6 cyl plug was identical. Turns out (I hope this WAS it) my #6 cylinder was missing due to a loose plug wire. You might have a missfire

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:27 am
by nailbomb3
spoiledred94 wrote:I hate to have to pipe in on this but my #6 cyl plug was identical. Turns out (I hope this WAS it) my #6 cylinder was missing due to a loose plug wire. You might have a missfire
Interesting. I'm not sure because I bought the car used, BUT I'm fairly certain the plug wires in it are you guessed it....the factory wires. I have a set of the NAPA Belden Edge here, and hopefully I can get them on tomorrow. It's like 10F here and I don't have a garage to work in, at least all the time.

The thing is thou, wouldn't you think a NO spark condition, or a LOW spark condition would make the plug look RICH? Hrmmm...

ETA: How'd you figure out you had a miss in #6, and loose as in loose enough to not get any spark?

Thanks Brother!

Re: Plugs for an 89: NGK V-Power or G-Power?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:53 am
by spoiledred94
I was getting an intermittent cough or spurt or cutout, right? So I chased it around with known coil packs and Ignition Module as well as new plugs. It was getting worse and I got a pending code, and finally a full on code. P0306 cyl 6 misfire. Had to be the wires so I pulled them all and cleaned every contact and took great care connecting the plug wires. Its been about 3 days and the misfire hasn't come back.

I think the white plug would look like that because there is not enough ignition to haze the plug. Gas is a great solvent. It could be keeping the plug white with all the gas that isn't burned.
I'd say to put your new wires on definitely.

Its cold here, and I don't have a garage either. (thou 40's a far cry from 10 :)