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Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp worth it
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:03 pm
by bigrod64
Is it reasonable to put a chip on a front wheel drive car, let alone the northstar v-8? i think i found one that does'nt mess with my warrenty.
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:46 pm
by repinS
A "chip"? Can you be more specific?
To my knowledge there is NOBODY that has a tune available for the LD8 Northstar in a Bonneville GXP. One shop in Alberta was close, but couldn't follow through because of the unavailability of a guinea pig car for the dyno. I have a gut feeling that you're looking at some sort of electronic apparatus that will make your wallet lighter and offer absolutely no performance improvement - in fact you could even be HURTING performance.
I didn't buy my car to mod the engine, so I'm cool with stock Northstar power levels (4000+ rpm
) and the lack of aftermarket support.
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 7:16 pm
by 00Beast
There are no "chips" in these cars, you just re-flash the PCM. However, the only company that offers support of the LD8 that I know of is HP Tuners, and I don't know anyone who's actually done it. You have to manually adjust and alter programming w/ HPT. There are no "canned" tunes that I know of, meaning a tune you just flash into your PCM sold by someone else.
Those little boxes they sell on e-bay? Those are resistors that trick your PCM into thinking it's -22F outside, adding more fuel for more power. Not only does the PCM figure this out quickly, but they also can cause engine damage.
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:43 pm
by bigrod64
Well thanks for the input , i'll just leave things alone and enjoy my gxp the way it is (lol),gotta figure out a way to deal with that GTO that's been chasing me around town!
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:54 pm
by 00Beast
bigrod64 wrote:Well thanks for the input , i'll just leave things alone and enjoy my gxp the way it is (lol),gotta figure out a way to deal with that GTO that's been chasing me around town!
Buy a different car.
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:54 pm
by repinS
Here you go!
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:04 pm
by samples08
are those things s/c if not drop a turbo in it and add a cold air is about what u can do! and even after that the Gto will be hard to beat b/c the weight difference is also killing you!
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:07 pm
by 00Beast
Adding a turbo is nowhere near that easy samples....
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:27 pm
by wake
00Beast wrote:Adding a turbo is nowhere near that easy samples....
haha no kidding
all i gotta say is good luck finding the room is all i gotta say!
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 2:47 am
by 01bonneSC
bigrod64 wrote:Well thanks for the input , i'll just leave things alone and enjoy my gxp the way it is (lol),gotta figure out a way to deal with that GTO that's been chasing me around town!
Either he thinks you have an LS, which means he is an idiot, or he doesnt know how to drive.
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 10:43 am
by 99BonnevilleSE
wake wrote:00Beast wrote:Adding a turbo is nowhere near that easy samples....
haha no kidding
all i gotta say is good luck finding the room is all i gotta say!
If I get my GXP, I'll be turboing it for sure. I'll find a way. As for tuning, HP Tuners is the way to go. EFILive suports the northstar now too!
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:53 pm
by samples08
no one ever said having a turbo was easy to install yes ive noticed we dont have the room but MAN would it be worth it and to me its hard to do and REALLY worth installing it so each to his own
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 9:09 pm
by 01bonneSC
samples08 wrote:no one ever said having a turbo was easy to install yes ive noticed we dont have the room but MAN would it be worth it and to me its hard to do and REALLY worth installing it so each to his own
GP guys turbo a lot
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:38 pm
by 99BonnevilleSE
01bonneSC wrote:samples08 wrote:no one ever said having a turbo was easy to install yes ive noticed we dont have the room but MAN would it be worth it and to me its hard to do and REALLY worth installing it so each to his own
GP guys turbo a lot
This is true. One thing I like about GP guys is they take a little more performance risks then we do on here.
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:26 pm
by 00Beast
The median age of guys on ClubGP is probably 21. The median age on here is probably closer to 30. Most of the members here are older and wiser, and understand the costs and risks of taking their only car off the road for a month. That's the thing I like about here, we advocate for safe and effective modifications and plenty of redundancy.
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:42 pm
by 01bonneSC
99BonnevilleSE wrote:
This is true. One thing I like about GP guys is they take a little more performance risks then we do on here.
And the percentage of grenaded GPs is MUCH higher than Bonnevilles lol
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:53 pm
by gonzo4191
the average age of all posts on the Pontiac Bonneville Club is 19 years old
haha ed
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:50 pm
by 00Beast
LMAO Juan. Wren still has 6x the posts I do.
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:54 pm
by willwren
But my post count goes back to early 2002. (off topic)
Re: Is putting a chip on my front wheel drive bonne gxp wort
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:47 am
by 99BonnevilleSE
01bonneSC wrote:99BonnevilleSE wrote:
This is true. One thing I like about GP guys is they take a little more performance risks then we do on here.
And the percentage of grenaded GPs is MUCH higher than Bonnevilles lol
Lmao. This is also true, I'll admit it.