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2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:46 pm
by swampthing
i'm going to remove everything tomorrow for cleaning and leak hunting, what all is involved in doing it?

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:30 pm
by laxmangl
CALLING ANDREW!!!

Actually a write up on this would be really handy... I feel like I saw one somewhere tho...

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:49 am
by swampthing
bout to start working today hopefully i'll figure it out. i found some stuff on old bc about removing the SIR fuse so i'll be doing that

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:19 am
by harofreak00
There is a lot of stuff to explain. How about you start tackling it and let me know if you have questions. I can PM you my phone number if you are really stuck.

Its a pretty straight forward process though. Just start taking out stuff and remember where it goes.

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:21 am
by swampthing
wow thanx haro, i would appreciate that!. one quick question what size is the torx bolt? t45?

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:26 am
by harofreak00
I believe so, but not 100% sure.

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:23 pm
by swampthing
ok guys, i have the front seats out and now i am workin on the console, how do i disconnect the floor shifter from the linkage?

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:41 pm
by harofreak00
The one that actually moves the shifter cable is just on a "ball joint". Just pry on the connector until it pops off, straight off the ball.

The brake release cable just needs to be pulled towards the back of the car to pull it off its shalf.

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:13 pm
by swampthing
forgive me bt I don't understand about the brake cable I got the shifter linkage off

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:14 pm
by harofreak00
It takes quite a bit of force. You need the pull the cable away from the open end of the connector. Just by looking at it you should see which way it needs to come off.

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:09 pm
by swampthing
ok here's how the car sits now, i removed the seats carpet and console from the car, i tested both drains up front and they are dropping water into the car, i cannot find the top lines after they go into the dash or the bottom ones that must be disconnected from them even after reading the techinfo article on them. haro, did you pull the lines out completely? how did you get them back in? do i have to pull the dash out or something what am i missing?

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:22 pm
by harofreak00
http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/fo ... f=18&t=252

You need to cut a flap in the rubber mat, just under the dash, on both sides.
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Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:11 pm
by swampthing
well i wrapped up tonight having found the diconnected bottom hose on the passenger side, i need to cut further up and find the top line and do the drivers side. where do i need to look for the rear lines i can't see them to pour water in them

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:58 pm
by harofreak00
Do you have the headliner and C-pillars out?

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:15 pm
by swampthing
headliner no, the c-pillars car be, i need to fix a speaker buzz anyways, only problem is i have to have the car drivable by tomorrow evening i have to work

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:13 am
by harofreak00
Well the headliner and c-pillars need to be out to diagnose the rear drains.

The only thing you need to make it driveable is a seat and shifter. ;)

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:15 am
by swampthing
haha thats true, so far i've found he passenger line but i haven't been able to reconect it i'm waiting for my brother in law to come over i need him to hand me stuff so i don't keep having to get up from getting way down there.

also my car onlly has the rubber directly under the dash was your whole floor pan covered?

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:20 am
by harofreak00
Just under the dash.

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:41 am
by swampthing
ok update time: i finally got under there yesterday and cut the rubber sure enough the lines were there just like haro said, also sure enough they were disconnected. i hose clamped them back together and i also took the inner fenders out and opened the tip of the nipple up with a razor knife because it was somehow pinched shut on itself. i got the car put back together with no problems other then i nicked my quarter panel with one of my seats so i have a new scratch :angry7:and i lost one or two clips, but other then that good as new all the water i poured down came out the drain behind the tire just like it's supposed to today it is raining horrible up here so i will know if my leak is gone or not, now i need to find the trunk leak. i have a few pics that i will update later

a few notes: the seat bolt is actually a T-47 though a T-45 might be made to work, i wouldn't do it for risk of stripping them.

also i feel that i should pull the inner fenders every now and then and clean 'em out there was about 4 inches of dirt and leaves packed onto the top of the side skirting which could possibly cause clogging problems.

i have to give a HUGE thanks to Haro for the write up and keeping an eye on my thread, you really came in handy a few times thanks dude :hail:

Re: 2000 front seat, console, carpet removal

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:28 am
by swampthing
depressing update: i checked the car after the rain this morning and the front floorboards are dry however the drivers rear is still soaked! i'm not sure what to do other then the rear drains how hard is it to get the headboard out?