Code 17 92 Bonnie
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Krizzp
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Code 17 92 Bonnie
help what do I replace CRANKPOSITIONSENSOR? ??? says it a spark reference circuit faulty ignition mod or a ignition harness jumper wire. Or pcm help plx
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J Wikoff
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Hi. If you can describe the symptoms, we might be able to tell you which way to go. Does it stall? Any specific conditions? Just a check engine light?
WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights
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Krizzp
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Ok she dies when gets hot sometimes will start right back up sometimes have to wait till it cools swapped icm no go still dies
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J Wikoff
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
From that description (stalling when hot) it sounds like the crankshaft position sensor is likely the problem. It is behind the crank pulley. You will want to check its wiring by opening the loom and looking at the wires. Or to replace the sensor, you have to remove the crank pulley which requires a harmonic balancer puller and three M6x1 bolts that are about 90 mm long and some good sized washers.
WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights
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Krizzp
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Ok great thanks I have the part on hand working up the motivation to get started hope she likes the new part ill keep ya posted
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Krizzp
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Not sure if you understood my post its kicking code 17 spark reference circuit /// if that changes anything
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Yep. 17 can be related to the crank sensor (will cause stalling), cam sensor (won't cause stalling), or ICM (could cause stalling), or the wiring for any of those.
WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Ok so the book says I need a cps adjuster tool is that a must or can it be done without a special tool?
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
You can do without if you do something to measure or mark how far the "halls" are from the crankshaft. You have to be very precise so the crank pulley fins don't destroy the sensor. I've used a thread gauge one time and a piece of scrap cardboard another time.
WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Cool thought so I marked it measured it marked it measured should be good to go thanks again so far been going in a positive direction 
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Problem solved 
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Good! I hope there aren't other problems so you can enjoy your car now!
WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Me to I've done a lot over the lasy few days should be peachy but we all know the fix one issue to only find a new one he he
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
Old 92 has been running fine for a long time. Started getting SES with codes 17 31 and 42. If I shut it off and restart it right away, the SES disappears. Stop for any reason and restart, SES is back. Car runs "okay", but mileage is suffering. Does not stall at all, and holds highway speeds fine. Replaced plugs and plug wires, routine stuff. Any other suggestions? I've followed the thread, but need just a bit of guidance, maybe tie the three codes together. Thanks for any help!
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Re: Code 17 92 Bonnie
packratjohn,
Please start another thread instead of tacking on to the end of another.
Makes it easier for everyone involved! Look forward to seeing your post.
Please start another thread instead of tacking on to the end of another.
Makes it easier for everyone involved! Look forward to seeing your post.