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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:50 pm 
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To the guys who have Motive power bleeders:

Are they a worthwhile investment? I'm strongly considering getting one to replace the nasty brake fluid in the LeSabre. My brake pedal doesn't feel as firm as it ought to. And I don't want to pay $80 for a turkey-baster refill at some garage.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:00 pm 
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I made my own. Very much worth it. Post a link to the one you're considering.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:12 pm 
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Motive Power Universal pressure bleeder. Best money you'll spend.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:36 pm 
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Here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000TYJEWW?smi ... nkCode=asn

Willwren, how did you make your own? I'd strongly consider doing it.

Edit: Or a quick search revealed how to. I am going to make my own. As soon as the stores here open up tomorrow... :angry4:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:34 am 
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Or for those with trunk compressors and a little creativity, you can make your own that works for you automatically.

Some tubing, either a bleed valve or a regulator, some fittings, and a spare reservior cap from a wrecker.

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I have the Motive power bleeder, and love it. Some have made their own from a lawn sprayer buy adding a pressure gauge and modifying a master cylinder cap. Any type...purchased or made...makes it a much easier one man job.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:37 pm 
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I bought one a while back and I'm very happy with it. Very easy to use. I think I got mine on Ebay for $50 including shipping. I'm pretty sure there was a member on here selling a new one for even less.

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How does it work on ABS? I thought you weren't supposed to use these on ABS?

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I've never heard of a problem with ABS. I only run about 3psi on mine for safety, though.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:04 pm 
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willwren wrote:
I've never heard of a problem with ABS. I only run about 3psi on mine for safety, though.

Me not knowing, I pressurized it to what the bottle says is the maximum pressure. It was either 10, 15 or 20lbs, I can't remember, but I had no problems with mine.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:30 pm 
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Buy or make, either way it is an excelent investment.

Use just enough pressure to get good steady fluid flow. (~5psi)

You should be fine with most ABS systems.

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Whitecrystal1 wrote:
I bought one a while back and I'm very happy with it. Very easy to use. I think I got mine on Ebay for $50 including shipping. I'm pretty sure there was a member on here selling a new one for even less.


Yeah, that was me. EBAY seller sent me two by mistake, said "keep it."

Shopped it on and off for 9 months on 5 different forums, finally sold it NIB for like $20 plus shipping. Couldn't believe the low interest level. :dontknow:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:47 pm 
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Ended up making my own for about $25. No fooling, $25. All the hardware was $20 at Lowe's, and the master cylinder cap was $5 at Advance.

Hardware:

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Mostly complete:

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You can guess how the cap went together with the help of some RTV silicone. There's also a little groove in the cap you have to smear with RTV. It's easy, took 30 minutes for my problem-riddled self to do.

Also picked up 5 feet of 1/4" ID tubing to run into a 2 liter bottle to use as a catch can.

Testing will happen later this week when I have more time.

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LeSabre in Buffalo wrote:
Ended up making my own for about $25. No fooling, $25. All the hardware was $20 at Lowe's, and the master cylinder cap was $5 at Advance.


Pressure gauge?

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The pump does not work, so it's back to Lowe's for a new one. Made in the US, too! Figured it had to be better than the Chinese ones.

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