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| Author: | 94SilverSSEi [ Wed May 26, 2010 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Will a 96 park avenue subframe go into a 99 regal? |
The first car is a 1996 park avenue ultra series 2 supercharged. 2nd car is a 1999 regal gse (assuming it's supercharged) will the subframe out of the pa just bolt into the gse. The regal had got a blown tranny and I thought it might be easier to just swap the whole subframe as the pa has like 80k less than the gse Or otherwise could I just swap the tranny are they the same? |
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| Author: | Wes [ Wed May 26, 2010 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will a 96 park avenue subframe go into a 99 regal? |
96 would be a different trans than the 99. and the sub frames are likely different as the regal is a W body, and the park ave is a C body. but, I havent tried to swap like that, so I cant say from experiance. I would still put my money on it not being a direct bolt-on swap. |
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| Author: | 00Beast [ Wed May 26, 2010 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will a 96 park avenue subframe go into a 99 regal? |
Not a snowball's chance in hell of the subframes being the same. Two different generations of two completely different cars, plus like Wes said, the PAU has a 4T60E-HD, and the GSE has a 65E-HD. The transmissions aren't swappable. |
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| Author: | 94SilverSSEi [ Wed May 26, 2010 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will a 96 park avenue subframe go into a 99 regal? |
Ok. So what kind of tranny am I looking for for the GSE. 97-0? 4T65E-HD correct? |
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| Author: | 00Beast [ Wed May 26, 2010 11:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will a 96 park avenue subframe go into a 99 regal? |
I believe you will be looking for a 98-99? Not sure if 97's are different or not. Finding a 99 would be your best bet, obviously. Correct, 4t65E-HD from a GTP, SSEi, GS or GSE, PAU, etc. |
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| Author: | 94SilverSSEi [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will a 96 park avenue subframe go into a 99 regal? |
On car-part.com for the it only shows other 99's Also it says what I need would have to come out of a grand prix or regal where as a bonneville, riviera, and PA ultra are all the same. So is there a difference bc of the W body vs H body or what? Also why would the rivvy be with the PA and Bonneville it's not an H body is it? |
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| Author: | Wes [ Thu May 27, 2010 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will a 96 park avenue subframe go into a 99 regal? |
Riviera is a G body the L67 W bodies have a different gear ratio than L67 C, G, and H bodies. I think it was 3.05 for the W. and 2.93 for the others |
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| Author: | sandrock [ Thu May 27, 2010 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will a 96 park avenue subframe go into a 99 regal? |
I think the biggest difference is.....the structural side pan. I know from experience the Riviera pan uses slightly different mounting points than a W-body. Plus, you have to consider this...most used transmissions include the torque converter, which can be specific to the car it came from. The 4T65 didn't change much from '97-02 aside from slight improvements. The '03 and newer ones aren't mechanically different, but electronically (and valve body and channel plate), they are worlds different from the previous years. |
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