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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:46 pm 
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Yesterday I was driving home to Kansas City from Dallas and suddenly the engine died on the highway with no warning (conveniently in the middle of OK). It would crank over fine, but not start. I had fuel pressure in the line but was not getting spark. Checked all fuses/maxi fuses and even the battery cables. No probs there. Tried spare key and tapped on ignition switch. Nothing.

After the car cooled down for 30 or 40 minutes it fired up and ran for about 6 seconds and died. No restart. Let it cool for another hour and it started and I drove about 3 miles before it died again. This time no restart at all. There was no check engine light on when the engine would start.

I got the car hauled home and am looking for some advise before I start throwing parts at it.

The car has 230k, replaced the crank sensor 3 years ago at 158k with a Borg Warner. Any way to test that?

A shot in the dark here: The only other possible contributing factor was approx 30 minutes before she died, I ran her up to a fairly high speed on a long open stretch of Oklahoma highway. Is there any connection with running the car out at high speed and engine trouble similar to this???

Where would you guys start?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:48 pm 
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Any codes?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:16 pm 
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No check engine light. OReillys informed me that their obd scanner would tell me nothing and there would be no codes if there was no check engine lite on. So I haven't rented the scanner. Are they incorrect?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:18 pm 
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It is possible to have a stored code without having the CEL on. While rare, some codes don't turn on the CEL. You never know.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:59 pm 
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It would be wise to scan the codes. I believe OBDII is capable of detecting a crank sensor fail. It wouldn't set the SES light until it quits, unless it is intermittent, like missing a beat or something. Scan the codes, see what comes up.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:57 pm 
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A crank sensor code does not mean the CPS is "bad". The problem could lie in the circuit- ie connectors/wiring/pcm. I just went through this, cranking no start and a CPS code stored.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:06 pm 
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No codes. But it turned out to be the ignition control module. It was damaged (cracked) in a wreck 5 years ago and chose that roadtrip to go ahead and die. Go figure.

Thanks for the help!


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