Transmission Shopping
- leatherneck
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Transmission Shopping
Ok guys and gals... I am shopping for a transmission for my '02 Bonneville. Aside from the different gear ratios... (mine has hte 3.05 in it) all the ones I seem to find are for the 2.86, asisde from this I have a few questions....
I am finding 4T65E's for various models other then the Bonneville... Are there any "catastophic" differences in these? I know that when I was engine shopping that I almost went Series III instead of the II but in this case I am looking for something with fairly low miles and age, but the car is 10 years old now.. So do I have to use hte Bonneville trans or can I put one say out of an 06 Monte Carlo or other 4T65E application?
Next question... Can I just reuse my diff out of my transmission or is there more sinister forces working against me to get the proper gear ratio?
I plan to buy this week as I really need to get my car fixed ASAP...
I am finding 4T65E's for various models other then the Bonneville... Are there any "catastophic" differences in these? I know that when I was engine shopping that I almost went Series III instead of the II but in this case I am looking for something with fairly low miles and age, but the car is 10 years old now.. So do I have to use hte Bonneville trans or can I put one say out of an 06 Monte Carlo or other 4T65E application?
Next question... Can I just reuse my diff out of my transmission or is there more sinister forces working against me to get the proper gear ratio?
I plan to buy this week as I really need to get my car fixed ASAP...
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Re: Transmission Shopping
You need a trans that matches your trans tag, whatever that may be. It must come from an 00-02, maybe 03, Park Avenue, LeSabre or Bonne w/ 3.05 gears, for a perfect match. Otherwise I'm not sure what else will work comparatively.
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Re: Transmission Shopping
Well it looks like I have found the transmission... just have to wait to get paid, picked up and installed
hope its still there when I go to get it...
2002 Bonneville SLE 128k miles aka "Frankenbonnie"
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
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Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
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Re: Transmission Shopping
are these trans's going out at 128K??
- leatherneck
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Re: Transmission Shopping
That seems to be the pattern I have been seeing here as of late...
Previous owner of thes car needs to be located and lynched for its treatment.
Previous owner of thes car needs to be located and lynched for its treatment.
2002 Bonneville SLE 128k miles aka "Frankenbonnie"
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
Upcoming changes - Hi Flow Cat/Exhaust - Cold Air Kit

1993 GMC 'Burb aka "Zombie Assault Vehicle" 230k miles
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
Upcoming changes - Hi Flow Cat/Exhaust - Cold Air Kit

1993 GMC 'Burb aka "Zombie Assault Vehicle" 230k miles
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Re: Transmission Shopping
I have decidede to attempt to swap in a trans out of a 2004. Doing some research I know that there are differences in the way the transmissions talk to the PCM. So I talked our friend John at Intense and have a PCM on the way with the 04 information programmed into the PCM with all else being 02 programming.. and since I had to pay for the custom tune package I took the liberty of having a few other changes made to the engine tune as well. I paid for Saturday delivery so hopefully that shows up today
The swap starts later today and hopefully I will get this in today. This is my first trans swap in a FWD car and looks like it is a really fun process.... But at a total cost of less than $800 for everything including the new seals, trans filter, trans cooler, mounts, fluid, the PCM and the Trans itself... Its much better then the $2,600 the trans shop wanted... Providing that all works as planned....
And if it dosen't work well, I saw a G8 for sale yesterday...
The swap starts later today and hopefully I will get this in today. This is my first trans swap in a FWD car and looks like it is a really fun process.... But at a total cost of less than $800 for everything including the new seals, trans filter, trans cooler, mounts, fluid, the PCM and the Trans itself... Its much better then the $2,600 the trans shop wanted... Providing that all works as planned....
And if it dosen't work well, I saw a G8 for sale yesterday...
2002 Bonneville SLE 128k miles aka "Frankenbonnie"
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
Upcoming changes - Hi Flow Cat/Exhaust - Cold Air Kit

1993 GMC 'Burb aka "Zombie Assault Vehicle" 230k miles
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
Upcoming changes - Hi Flow Cat/Exhaust - Cold Air Kit

1993 GMC 'Burb aka "Zombie Assault Vehicle" 230k miles
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Re: Transmission Shopping
Ok I have the car on jackstands, the front tires are off... and as I am looking at the way this is installed at some point I am going to have to drop the subframe to get the trans all the way out due to the location on the drivers side and the engine being in the way.
I have my jackstands located on the front part of the subframe, but this looks like I am going to need to relocate these elsewhere, but I am not 100% sure as to where to put them so they do not damage the car.
I have my jackstands located on the front part of the subframe, but this looks like I am going to need to relocate these elsewhere, but I am not 100% sure as to where to put them so they do not damage the car.
2002 Bonneville SLE 128k miles aka "Frankenbonnie"
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
Upcoming changes - Hi Flow Cat/Exhaust - Cold Air Kit

1993 GMC 'Burb aka "Zombie Assault Vehicle" 230k miles
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
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Re: Transmission Shopping
Def something I wouldnt want to do without a lift lol. And dont forget pics!!!
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Re: Transmission Shopping
I am def takin pics... just a matter of finding placement for the stands... and I would probably have the old one out by now if I had a lift
The link to the process so far is below... more to be added
http://photobucket.com/bonnevilletransmission
http://photobucket.com/bonnevilletransmission
2002 Bonneville SLE 128k miles aka "Frankenbonnie"
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
Upcoming changes - Hi Flow Cat/Exhaust - Cold Air Kit

1993 GMC 'Burb aka "Zombie Assault Vehicle" 230k miles
Intense PCM w/2004 improved trans shift points/180 fans-stat/+3deg timing advance/DTC inhibit
Transmission Cooler
Upcoming changes - Hi Flow Cat/Exhaust - Cold Air Kit

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Re: Transmission Shopping
wish I was there to hand you tools and to watch and learn - lol - BC
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