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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:47 pm 
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I recently purchased a 2005 Bonneville GXP from a friend, who kindly explained everything he knew to be wrong with it. I fixed most of the little issues already. He told me it had a bad o2 sensor, and that's why the Service Engine Light was on, I took it to Autozone today, had them run their OBD2 tool, and came up with this:

P0171 System Too Lean (Bank 1)
P0174 System Too Lean (Bank 2)
P0455 Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected (gross leak/no flow)
P0442 Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected (small leak)
P0442 Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected (small leak)
P0741 TCC System Stuck Off - Mechanical (4T65-E)

*Yes, there was two of the exact same P0442 code on the scan, though I'm not sure why?

1. First question is, would/could all those EVAP leaks be related to each other, as well as the Lean Bank codes?
I pulled the beauty cover, looked around, shot some carb cleaner st every hose I could, and didnt notice an idle change at all. Gas cap seems tight. It's possible some sort of fuel tank exhaust line is broken, as there is a line under the carpet in the trunk that appears broken, I'll have to get a picture of it, but not sure if it could cause all those codes?

2. The TCC code kind of confuses me, as I was under the impression that the Northstar GXP cars came with a 4T80, not a 65? My build sheet (I emailed GM and got the original build sheet) has a code of MH1 and MX0 for transmission, but doesnt specify from what I can find, which it has. Also, there is no drivability issues whatsoever with the transmission. It shifts fine, the traction control turns on and off, and seems to be working as intended, and there are no lights that come up when flooring it and slipping, so I'm not sure if that's an erroneous code or not?

Mostly I'm just unsure of where to start with the vacuum leak codes? Any help anyone could provide, would be greatly appreciated!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:55 am 
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P0171 (and 174)

bonneville-gxp-northstar-powered-cars/topic30881.html?hilit=p0171

P0455 and 442 answered at a high level here;

post447739.html?hilit=p0455#p447739

P0741

bonneville-gxp-northstar-powered-cars/topic51329.html?hilit=p0741

1) EVAP codes can work in tandem and yes it could drive the lean codes.
2) The code is a generic titled GM code and can flag if the fault is there regardless of actual transmission as both most likely use the same base program table.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:08 pm 
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Thank you for the links! I had already read through the 741 one for transmission, and the 442 one, but hadn't seen the 174 one. I did take a picture of the line I had a question about, that's in the trunk. I hooked it back up, after work I can run it again and see if it makes a difference. I just gotta figure out how to post a picture to show the line I'm talking about, I'm sure you could tell me exactly what for.

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That is a rear sunroof drain and will not cause any of your DTC's. Of course it will cause you other water leak related problems. You can simply use something like a wire tie/tie-wrap to fix it. If necessary, there is also information on the numerous water leaks these cars suffer and how to fix them (including the sunroof drains - most notably the front drains).

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Thank you for clarifying what that line was! I was hoping it was something to do with the EVAP codes, but I guess I'll do some more digging to try and find the problem.

I was browsing these forums when I first started looking at buying this car, and was impressed at the knowledge you all have. I am happy for the internet and places like this! Hopefully I can contribute something someday!

Speaking of which: I'm not sure if I found it on this forum, or somewhere else, but if you email socialmedia@gm.com they will gladly send you an original build sheet, with RPO codes. I asked about production numbers, but they dont have that info. In either case, if that info isnt somewhere on this forum, let me know and I'll make a new thread, or a mod could put it somewhere so others could find it.

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