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 Post subject: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:17 pm 
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Hello again, happy new year to y'all by the way. :beerchug:
I came across an 1998 Buick Park Avenue for sale on Facebook a couple of weeks ago.
So I bought it. It was the right price (£1600, about $2000), everything works apart from the a/c, and the trunk release actuator. I knew the a/c was not working, the seller told me he couldn't open the trunk the weekend before I had it delivered. He turned out to be a stand up guy, he transferred the price of a new actuator (£52, about $74) into my bank account when I told him I'd ordered one from Rock Auto.

Pics to follow shortly. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:03 pm 
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Awesome. I'm sure the pics will show but is it an original euro export or imported after the fact?

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:12 am 
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It was bought new from a dealer in Florida, very soon after (possibly immediately) it was shipped to the UK. This is from the big wad of documents that came with the car.
Right now the UK is in the grip of a cold spell - by our standards, don't laugh if you're from Canada or the northern states [-X _ and the roads are heavily salted. It's in my garage right now, when the snow melts and the salt gets washed away by rain, due early next week, I shall get some pics.

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:45 pm 
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Nice! Looking forward to seeing some pics of this thing. Does it feel massive over there? lol

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:11 am 
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A quick comparison with my wife's Citroen Grand Picasso, a fairly large car by European standards;
-------------------- Buick---------------Citroen
Wheelbase.--------113.8"--------------107.5"
Overall length.----206.8"--------------180.3"
Width.-------------74.1"----------------72.0"
Height.------------55.1"----------------63.35"

Just over 2 feet longer, slightly wider, and 8" lower. Not a problem at all with its good all round visibility, ultra smooth transmission and effortless steering. There are probably a number of high end cars, and certainly plenty of SUV's that are larger on the roads over here.

Inside the Buick wins hands down for interior space, three at a pinch in the front of the Buick, the Citroen has two bucket seats. The rear seat is hands down the Buick's trump card. The Citroen has plenty of room for 3 adults in the back, but the Buick has an amazing amount of room. The Citroen has two pop up third row seats, which would really only be adequate for pre teen kids, at the expense of trunk space of course.

Trunk space is a wash, the Buick has a cavernous trunk, the Citroen has a wagon style tailgate and plenty of usable space. The Citroen has much more useful places to stow stuff in the cabin, pockets on both front doors, a larger glove box, and two covered pockets on top of the dash. However, the Citroen rear seats can be folded down individually, giving wagon like room for large bulky items, or extra luggage room while one or two rear seats can still be used. The Buick can take something like a pair of skis through an opening behind the arm rest

The Buick has a much more luxurious air to its cabin, but the Citroen isn't an upscale car.

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:27 am 
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Cool. Your new Park Avenue is definitely a big car by UK standards. When I visited England and Wales a couple years ago I got a lesson on what narrow roads really are, and why roller-skate sized cars are the norm. Bein' a 'Merican, I rented the biggest thing on the lot - a Mercedes Vito van (in my defense we were packing a large tricycle stroller with us along with my wife's luggage (yet another story)). About a half kilometer out of Heathrow, I was curbing the rims on the Vito and white-knuckling in an effort to give oncoming traffic room to get by.
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Fortunately drivers in the UK know what it's like to drive in the UK and are fairly courteous. More so than the US. If/when I visit again, I'm renting the smallest thing I can get my hands on and my wife is only bringing 2 pairs of shoes.

Looking forward to pics of the new PA!

BTW, it was -30F in Great Falls MT Friday. Some people were actually seen with coats on. :poke:

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:51 pm 
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-30f? :eek2: . I have no idea what that feels like. +30f is my idea of too *dang* cold.
If you went round some of the back roads in Wales in a Vito I bet you had fun with that!.
Incidentally, the Park Avenue spent a good bit of its earlier life in Wales. I'll have a good look through he paperwork and see if I can find out more.

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:14 pm 
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Sirius wrote:
If/when I visit again, I'm renting the smallest thing I can get my hands on and my wife is only bringing 2 pairs of shoes.


So I opted for the smallest car I could rent in Spain once, a Seat something or other, and while traveling at highway speeds it basically felt like a sneeze could have me jerk the wheel across 3 lanes.

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
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Conversely the only place I felt comfortable in the Vito was on the highway. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:13 am 
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And to think, the Buick is "average" in size here. Especially when you discount all of us with trucks and Suburban's. :D

This wasn't from this winter (although we were in the -teens a couple weeks ago), this was a winter or two ago at about 5am CST when I went out to start cars to ensure they started.

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 Post subject: Re: Got another new toy!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:31 pm 
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CMNTMXR57 wrote:
And to think, the Buick is "average" in size here. Especially when you discount all of us with trucks and Suburban's. :D

The Vito, incidentally, would be relatively "average" here too. Certainly not huge by our standards. It felt like driving a step van in England, though. The real difference is the roads. The shoulder on our roads is bigger than the main roadway over there. As for road shoulders over there...HA! Where dwellings line the road I'm pretty sure the front door empties right into the street. You have to look both ways before you step out to get the newspaper. LOL!

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