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 Post subject: Intercooler
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:42 pm 
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Does anyone have any thoughts on intercoolers, or an idea of power gains? I'm contemplating an intercooler for a springtime project.

My goal is to safely drop a pulley size or two, and retune. Are the gains worth the cost, and is the Stage 2 intercooler from ZZP considered the most robust?

Given the mods I already have, I'm not sure what the next step is to bring any appreciable gains-- No cam since I have rockers. I do plan on installing stiffer valve springs in the near future however.

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 Post subject: Re: Intercooler
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:26 am 
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Even the SSIC would allow you to drop a couple tenths on the pulley diameter. My custom 1-off home built intercooler on the ZiLLA was designed to be about 80% of the SSIC efficiency, and I dropped from a 2.55 to a 2.0 with no problems, and that's with the M62 creating more heat than the M90 does.

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 Post subject: Re: Intercooler
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:26 pm 
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What did you use to make your own intercooler?... :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Intercooler
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:24 pm 
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Lots of different things, and it's all posted. Remember that nobody makes one for a Series 1. (except me, of course)

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 Post subject: Re: Intercooler
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:34 pm 
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Was it posted here, or at the other place? I only remember seeing stuff from WCBF about it, and when you were taking it off...

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 Post subject: Re: Intercooler
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:54 pm 
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The old site, but here is the continuing thread: http://pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4034&hilit=intercooler


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 Post subject: Re: Intercooler
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:09 pm 
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Very interesting link there to the Intercooler mod for the series I! Certainly lots of thought and preperation went into that mod! Great work as always Wren!

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 Post subject: Re: Intercooler
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:30 pm 
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And here I was thinking about using a heater core to make one... This is one mod I wouldn't mind putting on the series 1, although I need access to a real machine shop first.

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 Post subject: Re: Intercooler
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:01 pm 
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Did you see what happened? As bill stated though, it was not because if the IC.

http://pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4138&hilit=cam


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