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 Post subject: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:57 pm 
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I've been running this swap for almost 4 years now. Here's what I did;

Grab rear lower control arms from a 2000+ lesabre or bonneville, cut off the square part where the hub bearing and caliper bolt up, have a machine shop mill the cut side flat, and drill threads out of hub bolt holes. Use these pieces as spacers between rear hub bearings and knuckles attach with applicable length and diameter hardened bolts and nuts and viola! You can mount calipers!!! Calipers will mount towards top of wheel well, and you will need to use 2000+ bonneville/lesabre calipers, pads, rotors, hoses and hub bearings. You will need to add a short piece of brake line on each side to reach the new hoses and also matching ABS pigtail connectors to match up to the new hub bearings.

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:30 pm 
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Sounds sweet. Any pics? Parking brake solution? Do you lock up the rears under any conditions?

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:39 pm 
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Never had a rear lock up situation EVER. Once I get my car back to my house I'll take pics, not really sure why I never did. And no parking brake installed for my setup, but I don't think there would be much issues using or modifying the stock cables to work. Worst case scenario use cables from the donor car.

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:49 pm 
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http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ZtnZH58

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http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ZtnZH58

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:55 am 
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Next time you have a wheel off I would really be interested in seeing how all the parts mesh together.

From your description I feel like if I had the parts infront of me I could probably figure it out but without anything visual, no idea.

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95 SLE... a keeper. 241k miles. Low and Slow.
98 Infiniti vq35'd i30: 13.3@104mph, 30MPG Hwy
07 Infiniti G35s 6MT
07 Ducati Monster S2R 800 with DS1000 swap
05 Suzuki DRZ400S
83 Yamaha IT175K
74 Yamaha DT175: brap brap, brap
72 Yamaha DS7: '74 RD250 swap, JL chambers

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:10 pm 
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As soon as I get the car back I'll take pics. It's SO simple, and interferes with nothing. I wasn't sure if it had been done before, but I looked up rear suspension and brake schematics for ALL the FWD GM cars I could think of while I was still a parts guy, and this was the ONLY simple, cost effective option I came up with. And worked like a charm plus it's as easy as changing rear hub bearings, no extra work once you've got all of the needed parts.

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:27 am 
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Alright, anybody who's interested in this swap, I just did the same swap on my old ladies '89 6000LE wagon. While I had the necessary pieces cut off from the donor control arms to take to my buddy to have milled flat, we traced the pattern on some billet pieces and had a few sets made on a CNC as well as saved the program so we can make these in the future with ease rather than buying and ripping off junkyard control arms, cutting the plates off and having them milled. I plan to sell these adapters in the future if there is interest. Will literally fit ANY fwd GM vehicle that uses that 4 bolt rectangular flange rear hub bearing and I have a list of vehicles to get donor brakes from.
This swap will most likely require 15" minimum wheel size considering the rotors are 11".

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:49 pm 
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Like Mike said earlier, pics of the setup would be fantastic, with a wheel off, even maybe with the brakes and hub off, so we know what is bolting to what.

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:35 pm 
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I took all of those pics this time! I have no idea how to or if I can post them on here, but I can email or text them to anyone who'd like to see, or if I can send them to another member if they'd like to post them in this thread, that'd be great!

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
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your-ride-pics-and-videos/topic46080.html

That's the easiest way. Seems like you use imgur already?

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:13 pm 
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I would be super interested in getting a pair of those fabricated adapter plates if you are still considering selling them off.


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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:45 pm 
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I think this will be the link to the pics, bear with me guys...

https://imgur.com/gallery/yOXXH

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
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And yes I will/can sell sets, I figure $100 is fair. 2 plates plus the 8 longer mounting bolts that are required.
All other hardware/parts is factory stuff from the disc brake donor car.

List of donor cars are;

2000-05 Buick LeSabre
1997-05 Buick Park Avenue
1992-99 Buick Riviera
1993 Cadillac Allante
1994-99 Cadillac DeVille
1992-02 Cadillac ElDorado
1992-97 Cadillac SeVille
1995-03 Oldsmobile Aurora
1992 Oldsmobile Toronado
2000-05 Pontiac Bonneville

Just make sure you get all the parts from same year/make/model.
You’ll need to grab the hoses, calipers, brackets, mounting bolts, pads & rotors.

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:08 am 
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Do you notice an improvement in braking performance with this mod compared to the original drums?

Also did you have to adjust or remove the proportioning valve for the rear brakes now that they are disc and shouldn't (I think?) need it?


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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:27 pm 
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A world of difference in braking performance. Feels like a modern car when braking now, no more harsh drum braking from the rear that was unpredictable in the pedal and would on occasion want to lock up.

No proportioning valve change necessary, I’ve done rear disc swaps on Chrysler’s as well and never needed to change proportioning valves. I’m sure many of internet users would disagree with this practice, but I have vehicles in my driveway that prove good everyday.

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:01 pm 
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Well I am sold. How soon would you be able to sell one of the kits?


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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:43 pm 
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Thank you for posting the pics and info.

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98 Infiniti vq35'd i30: 13.3@104mph, 30MPG Hwy
07 Infiniti G35s 6MT
07 Ducati Monster S2R 800 with DS1000 swap
05 Suzuki DRZ400S
83 Yamaha IT175K
74 Yamaha DT175: brap brap, brap
72 Yamaha DS7: '74 RD250 swap, JL chambers

Info on dropping a 92-99: Here.


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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
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No problem at all! Hopefully it can help some folks out there! It really is an easy swap and a “why not?” Upgrade. Especially if your drums need servicing anyway.

If anyone has ANY questions about it or would like to buy the billet plates instead of buying used control arms, a bunch of sawzall blades, spending a couple hours cutting them up, then having the backs milled flat just let me know.

Thanks guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
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Could you PM me about how to purchase a pair of those adapter plates? The forum will not let me send a PM at the moment because I am too new of a user but I think it will still let me receive and view ones you send me.


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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disc Swap
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PM sent!

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