Looked at a few pages, and they say I can take the screen off to allow more airflow into the motor.. but some people say it will make the car run rough or die. Any experience with this? And if I do take it off to try it, will it go back on?

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

In my experience, it idles rough. Gains can be felt some places, losses others. General smoothness is lost through the entire range. I've been toying with this idea...

http://www.saxonpc.com/100mm-cells-for-100.html

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WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights

Hmmmm. If I try it out, will I be able to put it back in?

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

And is yours supercharged?

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

Mine is supercharged.

I am not absolutely positive if series II is the same or not, but series I screens are held in by a snap ring and easily removed/replaced.

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WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights

Alright. I'll give it a shot. Thanks!

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

It's removable, but it's a bad idea. You're not outflowing at this point, and it's purpose is to create laminar flow to allow the MAF to read accurately. Without it, the MAF readings go all over the place.

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

Well, looking at my scanner everything seems fine.. gain of ~10hp. Only effect I'm seeing is a slight rough idle.

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

10 HP? Did you paint it red?

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

and what do you mean by outflowing?

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

Nope. That's what it's telling me. I was at 277hp max with screen in, and 288hp with screen out.

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

It's not a restriction.

And what kind of scanner?

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

10hp doesn't come about that easily for the most part...

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

Obdii. And it would if the Pcm hasn't recognized the change yet and tries pulling default values.

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

Aka: dumping tons of fuel into the cylinders and making it run super rich, not ideal. Do a MAF tune and I bet it won't have changed much.

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

= vroom!

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

Lol in all honesty... Is it really that horrible to have off?

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

I ran about 7 years without one. No issues. Many others have too.

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95 SLE... a keeper. 241k miles. Low and Slow.
97 BMW 528i
98 Infiniti vq35'd i30: 13.3@104mph, 30MPG Hwy (RIP)
02 Jag X-type
03 BMW M5
05 Chevy Cobalt LS
07 Infiniti G35s 6MT (Sold)
07 Ducati Monster S2R 800 with DS1000 swap
83 Yamaha IT175K
72 Yamaha DS7: '74 RD250 swap, JL chambers

Info on dropping a 92-99: Here.

Rough idle kinda scares me tho. It's not terrible but in the long run idk

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.

Should I be worried about the very slight rough idle? Since it's just from air, would it cause any problems?

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1997 Grand Prix GTP "Black Ice, 'cuz it's slick" - 17" Motegi Racing Rims, Hankook Optimo Performance Tires, 'Big 3' Wiring Upgrade, Weapon R Secret Weapon Intake w/ Ram Air, Larger SuperCharger lines, AutoLite 104's, U-Bend Delete, Resonator Delete, Cat Delete, Turbo Flowmaster Mufflers. 342bhp, 327 lb-ft torque, 9.091 boost psi @ 6,012 rpm.