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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:03 pm 
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Is it reasonable to put a chip on a front wheel drive car, let alone the northstar v-8? i think i found one that does'nt mess with my warrenty.


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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:46 pm 
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A "chip"? Can you be more specific?

To my knowledge there is NOBODY that has a tune available for the LD8 Northstar in a Bonneville GXP. One shop in Alberta was close, but couldn't follow through because of the unavailability of a guinea pig car for the dyno. I have a gut feeling that you're looking at some sort of electronic apparatus that will make your wallet lighter and offer absolutely no performance improvement - in fact you could even be HURTING performance.

I didn't buy my car to mod the engine, so I'm cool with stock Northstar power levels (4000+ rpm :twisted: ) and the lack of aftermarket support.

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There are no "chips" in these cars, you just re-flash the PCM. However, the only company that offers support of the LD8 that I know of is HP Tuners, and I don't know anyone who's actually done it. You have to manually adjust and alter programming w/ HPT. There are no "canned" tunes that I know of, meaning a tune you just flash into your PCM sold by someone else.

Those little boxes they sell on e-bay? Those are resistors that trick your PCM into thinking it's -22F outside, adding more fuel for more power. Not only does the PCM figure this out quickly, but they also can cause engine damage.

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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:43 pm 
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Well thanks for the input , i'll just leave things alone and enjoy my gxp the way it is (lol),gotta figure out a way to deal with that GTO that's been chasing me around town!


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Well thanks for the input , i'll just leave things alone and enjoy my gxp the way it is (lol),gotta figure out a way to deal with that GTO that's been chasing me around town!

Buy a different car. :wink:

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are those things s/c if not drop a turbo in it and add a cold air is about what u can do! and even after that the Gto will be hard to beat b/c the weight difference is also killing you!

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Adding a turbo is nowhere near that easy samples....

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Adding a turbo is nowhere near that easy samples....


haha no kidding


all i gotta say is good luck finding the room is all i gotta say! :banghead:

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Well thanks for the input , i'll just leave things alone and enjoy my gxp the way it is (lol),gotta figure out a way to deal with that GTO that's been chasing me around town!


Either he thinks you have an LS, which means he is an idiot, or he doesnt know how to drive.

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Adding a turbo is nowhere near that easy samples....


haha no kidding


all i gotta say is good luck finding the room is all i gotta say! :banghead:


If I get my GXP, I'll be turboing it for sure. I'll find a way. As for tuning, HP Tuners is the way to go. EFILive suports the northstar now too!

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no one ever said having a turbo was easy to install yes ive noticed we dont have the room but MAN would it be worth it and to me its hard to do and REALLY worth installing it so each to his own

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no one ever said having a turbo was easy to install yes ive noticed we dont have the room but MAN would it be worth it and to me its hard to do and REALLY worth installing it so each to his own


GP guys turbo a lot

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no one ever said having a turbo was easy to install yes ive noticed we dont have the room but MAN would it be worth it and to me its hard to do and REALLY worth installing it so each to his own


GP guys turbo a lot


This is true. One thing I like about GP guys is they take a little more performance risks then we do on here.

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The median age of guys on ClubGP is probably 21. The median age on here is probably closer to 30. Most of the members here are older and wiser, and understand the costs and risks of taking their only car off the road for a month. That's the thing I like about here, we advocate for safe and effective modifications and plenty of redundancy.

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This is true. One thing I like about GP guys is they take a little more performance risks then we do on here.


And the percentage of grenaded GPs is MUCH higher than Bonnevilles lol

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LMAO Juan. Wren still has 6x the posts I do.

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99BonnevilleSE wrote:

This is true. One thing I like about GP guys is they take a little more performance risks then we do on here.


And the percentage of grenaded GPs is MUCH higher than Bonnevilles lol


Lmao. This is also true, I'll admit it.

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