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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:17 pm 
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i was just wondering if you can put a supercharger in a se to make it like a SSei.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:20 pm 
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The most cost-effective and reliable way to do it by far is to sell your SE and buy an SSEi.

The next best option is to swap the entire drivetrain. Motor, transmission, engine wiring harness, PCM, axles. You will still have a car that lacks the SSEi's suspension, handling, and extra perks (better seats, Head up display, etc).

The worst option in terms of reliability is a full top swap, keeping the weaker pistons and rods, and the weaker transmission.



You better have a big budget to start. They are not the same motor, and the transmissions differ enough to rule them out as well. Click the Techinfo link at the top of the page and you'll find more info.

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Can you? Yeah, it's been done quite a bit, especially in the Grand Prix community. However, it requires much more than the Supercharger. You'll need everything from the heads up, as well as a supercharged car's balancer and accessory drive setup, along with the wiring harness and PCM, or a full drivetrain swap, like willwren suggested.

You want the S/C w/o the work? Sell the SE, buy an SSEi. Not only do you gain the S/C and the better trans, you get Heads Up Display, leather interior, memory seats, factory boost gauge and DIC, 8 speaker stereo, SSEi body cladding, 17" Wheels and 235/55R17 tires, better suspension and a few other things I'm probably forgetting. Unless this SE is the car for you, save up the difference and get a nice, lower mile, good condition SSEi. You'll be much better off.

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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:24 pm 
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Yes you can. I planned on doing this, but I"m selling my 99 SE soon. I have the whole kit you need to do it, and I'm selling it cheap for $300. Where are you located?

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There's no way in H E L L you can get everything you need to do it RIGHT for $300, even at a bargain price. Top-swapping is the least-viable alternative to the whole mess.

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:25 am 
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There's no way in H E L L you can get everything you need to do it RIGHT for $300, even at a bargain price. Top-swapping is the least-viable alternative to the whole mess.

I bought the whole kit from Morad, now I'm just trying to sell it. The only thing that he would need would be gaskets and etc. I agree Top Swaping isn't the best option. But some Grand Prix guys swear buy it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:11 am 
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Some Grand Prix guys also have their own tuners and drive cars that don't weigh what ours do (far less stress on the transmission).

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:04 pm 
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willwren wrote:
Some Grand Prix guys also have their own tuners and drive cars that don't weigh what ours do (far less stress on the transmission).


This is true. I'm not disagreeing at all here with you. I think he should do his full research on any engine modding; as much as he possibly can. Alot more can be found on the grand Prix forums in this department as they tend to take their performance pretty seriously. And you can also learn from the idiots mistakes on there. Not to be conceded on here. But the people on here who have done performance mods are very well educated and know what they are doing. Such as Zilla himself. So my advice to you would be learn as much as you can on here. Then do some research on other forums.

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:16 pm 
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I say just buy an SSEi

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I say just buy an SSEi


I couldn't agree more. I love my Bonneville and all, but I'm looking at the GXPs really hard right now. It's winning over GTOs in mind just for the fact I love having a big car, but I have my heart set on a V8 for my next car. But that leaves me no room to complain about gas prices, also something to keep in mind... :btruestory:

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01bonneSC wrote:
I say just buy an SSEi


I couldn't agree more. I love my Bonneville and all, but I'm looking at the GXPs really hard right now. It's winning over GTOs in mind just for the fact I love having a big car, but I have my heart set on a V8 for my next car. But that leaves me no room to complain about gas prices, also something to keep in mind... :btruestory:


Well if you like modding or are going to mod, is go with an ssei. No aftermarket for the N*, unless you meant GP Gxp, then you get the LS engine.

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I say just buy an SSEi


I couldn't agree more. I love my Bonneville and all, but I'm looking at the GXPs really hard right now. It's winning over GTOs in mind just for the fact I love having a big car, but I have my heart set on a V8 for my next car. But that leaves me no room to complain about gas prices, also something to keep in mind... :btruestory:


Well if you like modding or are going to mod, is go with an ssei. No aftermarket for the N*, unless you meant GP Gxp, then you get the LS engine.


Well after doing some research, there is mods available. Tuners are available now. HP Tuners works on the Northstar now. http://www.chrfab.com makes some stuff. Plus I have a few other tricks up my sleeve ;)

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Didn't see anything on that site that was for new N*s.

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Ok, this is getting wayyy off topic. Lets leave this at kevin and his SE.

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Ok, this is getting wayyy off topic. Lets leave this at kevin and his SE.


Ok. No, I would not supercharge an SE.

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If u have the money to do everything to make it a ssei then, do it, if not u could find a older model ssei for cheap trust me, i just bought a 1992 bonneville ssei for $500 and has 144,560 miles on it but had to fix alot of stuff


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thelycan, he can't use parts from that generation of SSEi. It's a different motor.

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