So looking at doing 300-350 hp on ye olde bonne and im looking at the drum brakes in the back..
Are there any 4 wheel disk brakes conversion kits out there or do i just have to go custom?
I want my baby to stop WELL because before putting performance in the car i want to be safe.

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06 Grand Prix GXP Diablosport Trinity , No DOD , Transgo SK , MSD 8.5MM Wires , NGK TR6IX plugs , LED's , Optima RedTop , Projector Retro , 3K Fogs , 20" Led Driving light , K&N CAI w/ Volant oversize air filter , Raybestos Brakes
94 SSEi NGK Plugs , Blue Streak Wires , Pulled Maf screen , Custom Exhaust , Raybestos Brakes , 12" MTX Audio sub and amp , Piaa Plasma Ion Foglight Housings , HIR His' and Lows' , Tinted Tails

IIRC, a rear disc set-up would have to be custom, as the later model years will not swap over, but this also involves a larger master cylinder to push the needed volume,

do-able....yes, all custom, but i know you're not afraid to be crazy with it,

but do remember that rear brakes do 20-30% of the braking, it could be beneficial, but necessary is hard to say

-Juan

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-Juan

No bonnie!
93 s10 ex cab: 2.8: t5: exhaust: tbi mods. 5.3, 76mm, and a D.r cam on a stand

The only advantage of disk vs. drum is cooling.

Properly adjusted drums can actually provide more brake torque than a disk.

There is no need to change to disk for street use. IMHO
Light to moderate track use may need shoe linings that can work at higher temps. (Road course not autocross or drag strip.)

Porterfield can recommend a compound based on the usage of the car. If they do not make a shoe for your car they can reline your old ones.

http://porterfield-brakes.com/index.php

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Part of it would be looks. But in the end if i did disks i would want 50 / 50 braking power.
Im just curious as too what exactly would need to be done.

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06 Grand Prix GXP Diablosport Trinity , No DOD , Transgo SK , MSD 8.5MM Wires , NGK TR6IX plugs , LED's , Optima RedTop , Projector Retro , 3K Fogs , 20" Led Driving light , K&N CAI w/ Volant oversize air filter , Raybestos Brakes
94 SSEi NGK Plugs , Blue Streak Wires , Pulled Maf screen , Custom Exhaust , Raybestos Brakes , 12" MTX Audio sub and amp , Piaa Plasma Ion Foglight Housings , HIR His' and Lows' , Tinted Tails

50/50 would lock up the rears far more often than you would like.

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WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights

How so?

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06 Grand Prix GXP Diablosport Trinity , No DOD , Transgo SK , MSD 8.5MM Wires , NGK TR6IX plugs , LED's , Optima RedTop , Projector Retro , 3K Fogs , 20" Led Driving light , K&N CAI w/ Volant oversize air filter , Raybestos Brakes
94 SSEi NGK Plugs , Blue Streak Wires , Pulled Maf screen , Custom Exhaust , Raybestos Brakes , 12" MTX Audio sub and amp , Piaa Plasma Ion Foglight Housings , HIR His' and Lows' , Tinted Tails

50/50 is not possible. The front brakes do 70-80% of the braking, due to nosedive, and other laws of physics. It's just how it is, and you can't change it. Period.

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

it's also how they are designed

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-Juan

No bonnie!
93 s10 ex cab: 2.8: t5: exhaust: tbi mods. 5.3, 76mm, and a D.r cam on a stand

Because of weight transfer. If you apply the same stopping force to all four wheels, the friction over the rear wheels will not be enough to keep the tires from breaking loose well before the fronts. The ideal braking setup would lock up all four at the same time and keep you pointed in the direction you want instead of spinning around.

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WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights

It's mostly due to the fact that 70-80% of the car's weight gets transferred to the front tires during braking, due to inertia, suspension design, and weight transfer. Stuff that you can't change.

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

Ok. So what do i do to drum brakes to make them look nice?

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06 Grand Prix GXP Diablosport Trinity , No DOD , Transgo SK , MSD 8.5MM Wires , NGK TR6IX plugs , LED's , Optima RedTop , Projector Retro , 3K Fogs , 20" Led Driving light , K&N CAI w/ Volant oversize air filter , Raybestos Brakes
94 SSEi NGK Plugs , Blue Streak Wires , Pulled Maf screen , Custom Exhaust , Raybestos Brakes , 12" MTX Audio sub and amp , Piaa Plasma Ion Foglight Housings , HIR His' and Lows' , Tinted Tails

paint them black and hope nobody sees them...

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2000 ssei gone but not forgotten

Current fleet:
2009 G8 v6, 2009 Avalanche LTZ, 2013 Volt

disks are sounding better and better.

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06 Grand Prix GXP Diablosport Trinity , No DOD , Transgo SK , MSD 8.5MM Wires , NGK TR6IX plugs , LED's , Optima RedTop , Projector Retro , 3K Fogs , 20" Led Driving light , K&N CAI w/ Volant oversize air filter , Raybestos Brakes
94 SSEi NGK Plugs , Blue Streak Wires , Pulled Maf screen , Custom Exhaust , Raybestos Brakes , 12" MTX Audio sub and amp , Piaa Plasma Ion Foglight Housings , HIR His' and Lows' , Tinted Tails

And more and more like a waste of money.
You don't need disk brakes.
Buy some brake paint, take your wheels off, mask off the suspension and stuff, and paint them black.
they'll look good, for a lot less money (wasted) than buying and adapting a disk kit.

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-Mike

Current Mods: Silverstar Ultra Low's and High's, Direct In Aux Input Jack, Gorilla Chrome Lug Nuts
Audio: 12" Alpine Type-R Sub || Eclipse XA1200 500w amp

they are all rusty and all that crap. how do i get around that?

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06 Grand Prix GXP Diablosport Trinity , No DOD , Transgo SK , MSD 8.5MM Wires , NGK TR6IX plugs , LED's , Optima RedTop , Projector Retro , 3K Fogs , 20" Led Driving light , K&N CAI w/ Volant oversize air filter , Raybestos Brakes
94 SSEi NGK Plugs , Blue Streak Wires , Pulled Maf screen , Custom Exhaust , Raybestos Brakes , 12" MTX Audio sub and amp , Piaa Plasma Ion Foglight Housings , HIR His' and Lows' , Tinted Tails

I have 98-02 F-body dual piston aluminum calipers and 12" Powerslots on the front of my 95. I've been beating on them for almost a year now without issue. The the brakeing is muchhh better.
This did involve switching to a 00+ front knuckle and W-body front strut/spring.

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95 SLE... a keeper. 241k miles. Low and Slow.
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Info on dropping a 92-99: Here.

Get new ones.. Hit em with brake caliper paint..

A steel bristled brush and some elbow grease.
Or just get new ones, and paint those.
http://www.racepages.com/products/?D=br ... 1523&Nty=1

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-Mike

Current Mods: Silverstar Ultra Low's and High's, Direct In Aux Input Jack, Gorilla Chrome Lug Nuts
Audio: 12" Alpine Type-R Sub || Eclipse XA1200 500w amp

I just did the brakes on the 94 SSEi.

Installed some drilled and slotted front rotors, new calipers painted red of course, painted up the rear drums and Monroe performance metallic pads.

It looks good and stops great!

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2000 SSEi - SilverBullet - 78,000 kms, 4" "straight shot" custom headlight ram air inlet, TOGs, 1.9's, Lsd, 2.9-3.4"MPS 10-15 psi, Ported GenV, EGR eliminated, OR pushrods, oil volume kit, trani cooler & shift kit, Titanium retainers, 90 lb springs, 160 Stat, 42# injectors, Fuel pump voltage increase, Wideband O2, 3" to dual 2 1/2" Magnaflows, Snow Meth/water injection, after SC temp gauge, 255/50WR17, timing commander set 15-18*@WOT, 2 speed Fan over-ride, disabled DRL, Solid motor mount, Meziere Electric water pump, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Drilled & slotted rotors/ceramics, GXP sway bars and STB, Upgraded and rebuilt transmission with ZZP 2500 rpm stall TC, Pioneer Bluetooth stereo with sub and 800 W amps, PB 13.5 quarter, (April 2014 car of the month)

well thats not a bad price.
i would love to see a pic or two of the drums.

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06 Grand Prix GXP Diablosport Trinity , No DOD , Transgo SK , MSD 8.5MM Wires , NGK TR6IX plugs , LED's , Optima RedTop , Projector Retro , 3K Fogs , 20" Led Driving light , K&N CAI w/ Volant oversize air filter , Raybestos Brakes
94 SSEi NGK Plugs , Blue Streak Wires , Pulled Maf screen , Custom Exhaust , Raybestos Brakes , 12" MTX Audio sub and amp , Piaa Plasma Ion Foglight Housings , HIR His' and Lows' , Tinted Tails