Living in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, I grew up dreaming about that moment when I got my first car and drove my first winter. For me, that is this year. After a bit of frustration, I finally heard about this technique and decided to give it a try. Sure enough, the good old flick works on my car, even with brand new all season Goodyear rubber. It's so fun to drift in a front wheel drive simply because once you put in all that work to figure it out, it makes it 10x as rewarding. I've got it down pat now, and can take corners much faster (obviously I take no risks and do such maneuvers in abandoned parking lots and empty streets). I hope this is the appropriate section, I'm a newbie. Anyone else put a little "excitement" into their winter driving?

When it snows here yes but we've only had one good snow this year. :( i find that the stability in the 2000 makes it kind of hard though, the 88 however is great at it.

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-Austin-
1988 LE, Intercooled L67 loading......

2000 SSEi R.I.P. Dead now :( INTENSE FWI, polished LIM, P&P supercharger, custom radiator, standalone trans cooler, trans-go shift kit (donating to the 88)

2002 2500HD Silverado with the 8.1 Vortec and Alison tranny. Likes to eat GT Mustangs and lots of tires, and all while stock!

I bet a good thousand of the miles registered in the odometer on my car are sideways. Your e-brake is your friend.

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-Car Guy Carl
"Penelope" - 2003 SLE - 247k Miles
"Sydney" - 2000 Honda S2000 - 98k miles

Mine's an SLE, so I don't believe I have stability control. I gave it the E-Brake treatment today, it works every time if the swedespeed method fails.

Couldn't disable stability on the GXP, only traction control. No sideways.

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Jerry /// Past: 95 SSEi (June 2010 COTM) -- 04 GXP (July 2011 COTM)
91 Honda Civic Wagon DX 2WD (fuelly) -- 208,000km -- 92hp -- Autocross Warrior
09 Lexus LS460 AWD -- 94,000km -- Daily Driver
09 White Hot G8 GT -- 155,000km (fuelly) -- LS3 Cam -- GM LS3 CNC Ported Heads -- Kooks 1 3/4" Long Tube Headers -- Solo Catback Midsection -- Hooker Maxflow Mufflers -- Pat G Tune -- Rotofab Intake -- Tein S-Tech Springs -- GXP FE3 Dampers -- BMR Subframe Cradle Inserts -- BMR Subframe Connectors -- Forgestar F14 Gold 18x9 +40 -- Michelin Pilot Super Sport 245/45/18 -- Maverick Man Carbon Fiber Spoiler

I have also used weight transfer with the brakes in the dry. The PA usually does sideways on its own in low traction situations with enough speed, and it is very easy to pull out of it too.

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~Randall~


1993 Buick Park Avenue - 197k - Some odds and ends done - Simply won't die
1994 Buick Regal - 78k - Bone stock - Always ready for a good kicking
1990 Oldsmobile 88 - Gone to a better place

On a GXP or SSEi you can unplug the yaw sensor behind the back seat on the drivers side.

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02 SSEi-Turning money into tire smoke, very efficiently.

The 96 will go about wherever you want. The 01 had stabiliwhack, but even still could be fun. I still prefer RWD (my G8) for sideways fun. In snow or dry. But if I have it my way it won't see snow again.

Hell, once you get used to the weight difference, even our Ranger at work is fun to slide around in on snow.

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

FWD to me is incredibly dull and boring in all driving conditions, especially winter. Sometimes I wish I had some snow tires for the Cutlass, that thing would be a blast in the snow!

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Ryan

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one

I've put the Ferd in plenty of parking lot drifts this winter... She loves it...

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*Chris*

15 Nissan Altima 2.5SL/2004 Honda Shadow 750 Aero
Previous, 07 GP SE, 06 GP GXP, 97 SSE 40th, 96 LeSabre Custom, 93 SLE, 90 LeSabre Custom

I can get more ridiculous angles with FWD and recover than you can with RWD. It may not be "real" drifting, but it sure is fun. And people stare.

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-Car Guy Carl
"Penelope" - 2003 SLE - 247k Miles
"Sydney" - 2000 Honda S2000 - 98k miles

Just drove an E36 M3 around in snow. Hate my life more than ever.

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02 SSEi-Turning money into tire smoke, very efficiently.

I love my G8 in fresh snow, with snow tires. I don't want to ever subjugate myself to FWD for my DD again...

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

If I could help it any I would. XD Stupid college. I could have 3 G8s. A TA and 5 Miatas.

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-Car Guy Carl
"Penelope" - 2003 SLE - 247k Miles
"Sydney" - 2000 Honda S2000 - 98k miles

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-Austin-
1988 LE, Intercooled L67 loading......

2000 SSEi R.I.P. Dead now :( INTENSE FWI, polished LIM, P&P supercharger, custom radiator, standalone trans cooler, trans-go shift kit (donating to the 88)

2002 2500HD Silverado with the 8.1 Vortec and Alison tranny. Likes to eat GT Mustangs and lots of tires, and all while stock!

4WD powerslides... K2500 with no ballast in the bed. 455 torque.

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Boost addict


The Fleet:
'93 SSEi - Twincharged + manual Build thread
'97 Camaro - Top swap
'05 STS - V8, AWD, her DD
'92 Trofeo - Fair weather DD
'99 Montana - top swap 3800
'04 Sierra 2500HD - LLY Duramax

Current project:
Something cool, trust me.

Upcoming projects:
'92 Bonneville SSE
'87 LeSabre T-type
'67 LeSabre

Gone to greener pastures:
'84 Sierra Classic - Twin turbo 3800
'97 LeSabre - Top swap

RIP:
'86 LeSabre - pictures
'93 SE - L67

4WD powerslides = hands down win. I love my truck

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Ryan

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one

4WD powerslides with a supercharged 8.1. 450 hp and almost 700 tq. Awesome



Is how I imagine it would be if we could diagnose the issues.

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Awd>4wd

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02 SSEi-Turning money into tire smoke, very efficiently.

4WD with locking differentials > AWD

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Ryan

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one