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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:22 pm 
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Location: Ontario, Canada
Year and Trim: 2000 Bonniville SSEi L67
I'm overjoyed !! - no more worrying about pass or fail. :banana:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:43 am 
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Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Heck, even going in for it the last time and not having to pay anything was great.

This is even better! It's finally gone!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:03 am 
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Location: Alberta, Canada
Year and Trim: 2004 GXP, 2008 STS, 2008 DTS
We don't, nor do I ever recall emissions testing in Alberta. I'm not actually sure that in this age it's of much value. Most cars have what would be considered "reasonable" emissions for their age. Seldom do I ever see any of the old oil burners anymore. I'm not sure that the cost/benefit exists to police this. I think the vast majority of cars on the road don't suffer critical system failures that make this a widespread problem.

Now, if we were talking safety inspections, I have a completely different opinion on that. Insurance companies will periodically require a these here, but aren't generally an issue until far beyond the point a lot of vehicles are already falling apart. As one example, recently I saw a Grand Prix at a local shopping mall. There was one lug nut missing off of two wheels and a missing stud of a third. The rest of the car looked like (and likely was) a complete piece of junk.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:46 am 
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Location: CHICAGO
Year and Trim: 2006 STS-V, 2004 GTO, 2009 G8 GT
While I would be happy to, I don't get what the overall issue is to be honest. We've had emissions testing here as long as I've known. The latest OBD2 test is painless, quick and easy. If I can pass with built LS motors, running long tube headers, no catalytic converters, etc, you'd pass with a Bonneville. It truly is simple and painless.

Here it start 3 years after in service date then every other year from there out. Last year was the GTO's turn, again, built LS motor, long tubes, no converters and I was in and out in less than 5 minutes with a "PASS".

Now if they're doing visual inspections, I get some level of anxiety, but still...

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2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:42 pm 
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Location: Dearborn, MI
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If you can pass with a built motor with no converters, it's not a real emissions test - which gets back to the point of how it's a waste of your (taxpayer) money to begin with. The people running those tests would fail an EV if the check engine light was on. :lol:

What I find annoying about emissions testing is that, like any test, it only has to pass it at the time of testing (dieselgate anybody?...). It makes it nothing more than just another tax or cash grab.

Safety testing is in the same boat for me. It's a good idea on paper, but it doesn't stop people from driving unsafe vehicles. So much stupid can happen in a year between tests, and corrected the day before and still pass. Then you're relying on an underpaid technician to diagnose how much rust is too much rust on the thousands of different chassis to determine it is still crash-worthy?


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I don't get what the overall issue is to be honest. We've had emissions testing here as long as I've known.

That's what us tin-foil-hat people call being brainwashed/indoctrinated :poke:

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'97 Chevy Camaro - 3800 supercharged, T5, T-tops
'05 Cadillac STS - V8, AWD, her DD
'92 Olds Trofeo - Fair weather DD
'84 GMC Sierra Classic - Twin turbo 3800
'97 Buick LeSabre - L67 winter DD
'92 Pontiac Bonneville SSE future project

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'67 Buick LeSabre - future victim


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:38 pm 
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Location: CHICAGO
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I may be brainwahed/indoctrinated, but it truly takes WAY more effort (time and $$$) to circumvent it than just going and doing it.

As to the cash grab and whether or not it's legit;
1) This is Illinois, nothing more needs to be said
2) Most other states with emissions testing adopt the same process. So they're all knee deep in the Kool-aid.

One state that I have been surprised at how stringent they are, and it isn't Commiefornia, is Maine. Here again though, it's more than just a OBD test. It's an actual road worthiness inspection.

Illinois couldn't get by with that, because it would eliminate 75% of it's voter base as all their cars would never pass.

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Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ

Daily Drivers:
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Mommy's NEW RGC
2007 Chrysler Town & Country Limited: Daddy's beater affectionately called the Rolling Garbage Can or "RGC" for short
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2009 Chevrolet Impala SS: LS4 V8, Victory Red
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - Daddy's winter beater and plow truck


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