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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:49 pm 
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Bottom line: Hubby's friend is selling a 2004 Mercedes-Benz E320. Hubby wants it. Therefore, one of the other cars has to go. That means MY car, the Bonnie, has to go. I am very, very upset. I HATE MERCEDES-BENZ! So this means that he will have that car and I will have to drive the 2010 Charger. I know it sounds crazy, but I like the Bonneville best of all. I can't believe that I am going to have to say goodbye to my car. I have had it since 2002. I am going to miss it so much....


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:28 pm 
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Get rid of the *shoot* Charger.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:55 pm 
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I agree. I think that the Bonneville is a better car than the Charger. He doesn't agree....


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If I was in your shoes then if he wants the Mercedes then HIS car goes.

Or you also go when the Bonneville goes...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:23 pm 
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Or you also go when the Bonneville goes...

I wish that my Bonneville and I had somewhere to go.


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Sounds like he wants his cake and eat it too....My wife gets to drive what she wants to drive, I get to drive what I want to drive, we compromise only if it's to suit the families need, otherwise we get to drive what we want. I got rid of the van for the Bonneville, she got rid of the car and got the Sport Trac. She wants a Mini Cooper now...guess we are getting a 3rd vehicle... :D

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:32 pm 
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These are my thoughts...

First, in my household, I maintain the vehicles. That means that I get to pick them out. That doesn't mean I'm a car nazi, but it does mean I get to pull the trump card when it's needed. I know what I'm capable of, and offer her choices based on that. Then, I stick with that car until it's use-able life is over. So far, she's loved every car, and aside from the Saab saga I haven't forced her to sell one or move on... (The Saab over one year cost me $1500 in parts and sat for weeks at a time waiting on those parts to ship, and was involved in several 'rescue missions'). Though, for the record, I liked the Saab a lot. I wish I'd had the time to make it a proper 'fix all the BS' project.

I am probably more capable, or more willing, to endure the punishment of maintaining a fleet of vehicles. That's everything from oil changes and engine swaps to borderline insanity. So I have a very high tolerance for going outside and fixing the car that just broke. That much being said, anybody that can turn a wrench with the right guidance and ability to communicate clearly can use this forum to keep any H-body or '00+ equivalent going until they either rust into a million pieces or are totaled in an accident.

As the primary bill payer, my main criteria is that the daily drivers are reliable. But to me the most important part is that the wife unit has a car that can have a bazillion warning lights going off at any given time yet still start every morning and drive down the road. Because I never want to have to go out on a rescue mission or tow her car home.

So I can honestly understand the situation you're in. But have to say, if a Bonneville is too hard to maintain, you shouldn't be allowed to own a car (that's not meant as a slight against you, rather your husband lol). At the end of the day, if my wife had wanted to keep the Saab as much as you want to keep your Bonneville, I would still have the Saab.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:23 pm 
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Thanks for your honest thoughts on this matter. You've given me a lot to think about.

Other than my misfiring cylinder #2, the car runs well. I haven't fixed the cylinder because everything regarding the cars has been up in the air and no final decisions have been made. My husband bought the Mercedes but has not registered it yet. He is not sure if he is going to keep it. Whether he keeps it or not, I have decided that I am keeping the Bonneville. The insurance is cheap enough and so is the maintenance. What's he going to do? He does not own me and cannot make me get rid of it. If something major goes wrong, that is another story. But for now, I still want it to drive my car to work, etc. I don't want another car.
I'll keep you posted on how this ultimately plays out. I've got to fix that cylinder, though, because the car is not riding right. Very rough and hesitating.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:15 pm 
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To be honest, I would stick with the vehicle(s) that are the newest, most reliable, and cheap to maintain, fuel and insure regardless of the brand on the grill. Could it be the Bonneville? Maybe. Could it be the charger? Maybe. I would wager against that, but maybe.

I mean, you've gotta step back a little, your Bonneville is pushing 20 years old.

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I do maintenance and repair at my house for most minor items but heavy repairs go to the local shop. I've dealt with the same guy going on 20 years now, and if his boys wont work on it, I don't buy it. Basically rule out VW, BMW, and yes, Mercedes.

I owned a 2005 Magnum, which mechanically is the same guts as the Charger, and it was not a reliable vehicle. I hated getting rid of it because it was spacious and comfortable, but not worth the constant nagging problems. Chief among those was the penchant for eating front end parts. Knock, thunk, and rattle was the order of the day...everyday.

The Bonneville had its share of issues, but in most cases they were easy to repair, and the car got far better fuel mileage than the Magnum could muster rolling downhill. The Magnum won on cargo space but between a Charger and the Bonnie, the Indian wins on looks and driving fun.

I miss both cars, but I still fawn over a Bonneville every time I see one.

The other far more important thing...my wife lets me play with my cars without complaint, and in return I HAPPILY maintain her vehicle. I make suggestions and recommendations about what to buy, but ultimately she gets what she likes in our budget range (and I'm willing to spend far more on her than she wants to spend on herself!)

Bottom line...I will NEVER force a car on her she doesn't want to drive. I cannot in good conscience praise and value the driving experience so much for myself and deny that to her, no matter if it means less in her eyes.

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I do maintenance and repair at my house for most minor items but heavy repairs go to the local shop. I've dealt with the same guy going on 20 years now, and if his boys wont work on it, I don't buy it. Basically rule out VW, BMW, and yes, Mercedes.

I owned a 2005 Magnum, which mechanically is the same guts as the Charger, and it was not a reliable vehicle. I hated getting rid of it because it was spacious and comfortable, but not worth the constant nagging problems. Chief among those was the penchant for eating front end parts. Knock, thunk, and rattle was the order of the day...everyday.

The Bonneville had its share of issues, but in most cases they were easy to repair, and the car got far better fuel mileage than the Magnum could muster rolling downhill. The Magnum won on cargo space but between a Charger and the Bonnie, the Indian wins on looks and driving fun.

I miss both cars, but I still fawn over a Bonneville every time I see one.

The other far more important thing...my wife lets me play with my cars without complaint, and in return I HAPPILY maintain her vehicle. I make suggestions and recommendations about what to buy, but ultimately she gets what she likes in our budget range (and I'm willing to spend far more on her than she wants to spend on herself!)

Bottom line...I will NEVER force a car on her she doesn't want to drive. I cannot in good conscience praise and value the driving experience so much for myself and deny that to her, no matter if it means less in her eyes.

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