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Bonnevillans

Post subject: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:42 pm

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Any ideas why the 1996 drive better than the 1997? Gm made some chamges from 96 to 97...

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PLAGUE PHANTOM

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:08 am

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I have driven both and they drive just the same. I notice no difference between the 1996 and 1997

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zuper8

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:45 am

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different trans?

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willwren

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:56 am

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Nobody would ever notice that unless one was having problems.

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94SilverSSEi

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:26 am

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zuper8 wrote:

different trans?

It was a different trans from 96 to 97 for the supercharged cars not the N/A cars. Wasn't it?

Because we have had a 96 and 97 SE and they have the same trans.

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willwren

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:27 am

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4T65E in 97 for the L67, 98 for the L36.

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Bonnevillans

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:16 am

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I,ve seen something but cant find it. There is a difference.

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zuper8

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:12 am

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willwren wrote:

Nobody would ever notice that unless one was having problems.

I don't know why anyone would notice a difference at all.

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willwren

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:03 am

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Bonnevillans wrote:

I,ve seen something but cant find it. There is a difference.

If you're FEELING a difference, there is something wrong with one of them. They should not drive any differently.

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willwren

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:12 pm

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Bonnevillans wrote:

Subject: 1996 versus 1997

willwren wrote:

Bonnevillans wrote:

I,ve seen something but cant find it. There is a difference.

If you're FEELING a difference, there is something wrong with one of them. They should not drive any differently.

I did read that they made a change from 96 to 97... I have a 96 my friend has a 96 and I have two 97's....the 96 drives smoother... It's sounds crazy but gm changed something....a sensor? Torque converter? I will have to find it again....

Again, if they aren't the same in 'feeling smooth', there's something WRONG with one of them. It's really that simple. When new off the lot, there was no driveability difference between the two years whatsoever. Between 1996 and 1997 with the SE/SLE (having the L36 under the hood), they are the same transmission. The 4T60E.

This is not true with the 96 and 97 L67's (96 had the 4T60E-HD and the 97 had the 4T65E-HD), but even with those, 99% of the drivers out there would be hard pressed to find any difference in how the car felt or drove.

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94SilverSSEi

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:57 pm

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Great info. And I owned both and they seemed exactly the same to me.

Bad mounts or suspension would be a biggie in difference.

@ willwren-probably a typo but u Said 4T65-E with L36. Shouldn't it be 4T60-E?

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willwren

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:35 pm

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Good catch. Multi-multi-tasking here. Distractions........

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Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:58 pm

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Smoother as in how? Acceleration?

The only differences *could* be either gearing or suspension, depending on how the cars were optioned. Nothing else mechanical would have changed.

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Jrs3800

Post subject: Re: 1996 versus 1997

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:41 pm

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The 96 PCM was on par with the 95 PCM... The 97 PCM was smarter...

Overall 99% of the 95's all of the 96,s and 97 L36's should run about the same, given they have the same gear ratio...

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