I really wasn't looking for a new car but, this is the first SSEi (for sale) I've ever seen in my area. So I kinda went for it since I have been wanting one for a while.

Just looked on Autotrader and there are only 2 SSEi's for sale within 100 miles. The one I'm looking at (2000 w/36k miles) for Ummm well I guess $10k after taxes and trade and another 2000 w/75k miles asking $8000 (will probably be about the same after taxes and trade)

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Almost 79k miles

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Autolite 606 plugs, Autolite wires, new PVC and APC cone filter at 66k miles

imo, both are over priced. If your not really in a need for it I would pass and wait until you see something better. These y2k+ bonnies have tow many common problems for me to buy another. I would love to find a low mileage 90s one

Good Luck

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2002 Buick Lesabre Custom L36 Titanium Blue Metallic/Medium Gray Cloth
2004 Buick Lesabre Custom L36 White/Graphite Gray Cloth
2015 SS Roof, Spare & 6M 6.2L LS3 415HP/415TQ SLIHRM/Jet Black Leather-Red Stitching
2010 Silverado LTZ Crew 4x4 6.2L L9H 417HP/403TQ NHT Black Granite Metallic/Ebony Leather
2013 Enclave Premium AWD 3.6L LLT White Diamond Tricoat/Cocoa Leather
2001 Wellcraft Martinique 2400 Merc 5.7L BIII 327hrs

1995 Bonneville SSE L36 Dark Polo Green Metallic **R.I.P. 4/28/10 236,400 miles**

I'd like to get out of the "90's" look and into a sporty looking car instead of "Grandpa's sporty car" LOL

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Almost 79k miles

Mods....
Homemade FWI

Autolite 606 plugs, Autolite wires, new PVC and APC cone filter at 66k miles

00+ SSEi is still Grandpa's sporty car, sad to say. Bonneville = Grandpa Car.

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

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2002 Buick Lesabre Custom L36 Titanium Blue Metallic/Medium Gray Cloth
2004 Buick Lesabre Custom L36 White/Graphite Gray Cloth
2015 SS Roof, Spare & 6M 6.2L LS3 415HP/415TQ SLIHRM/Jet Black Leather-Red Stitching
2010 Silverado LTZ Crew 4x4 6.2L L9H 417HP/403TQ NHT Black Granite Metallic/Ebony Leather
2013 Enclave Premium AWD 3.6L LLT White Diamond Tricoat/Cocoa Leather
2001 Wellcraft Martinique 2400 Merc 5.7L BIII 327hrs

1995 Bonneville SSE L36 Dark Polo Green Metallic **R.I.P. 4/28/10 236,400 miles**

True, but at least the 00+'s look like a new car.

My 99 still looks like it's from... well the early 90's


I guess I'm sticking with my origanal plan of paying my 99 off.
I got a list of stuff to fix though, and no time to do anything. YUCK

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Almost 79k miles

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Autolite 606 plugs, Autolite wires, new PVC and APC cone filter at 66k miles

Well it's still at the dealer and I'm still thinking about it....

If I get the $4000 from my home tax credit soon I think I might just do it.

Trade in the 99 for the 00 SSEI

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Almost 79k miles

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Homemade FWI

Autolite 606 plugs, Autolite wires, new PVC and APC cone filter at 66k miles

I know the miles are higher (http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/ctd/1269726254.htmlandhttp://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/1266317057.html), but I agree with everyone else about the price.

I really want something with less than 75K miles on it... I drive about 10,500miles a year just to and from work. I'll be racking up miles pretty quick so I don't want to start with something near 100K already

I started at around 78k on my 99SE when I bought it in May or June of 07 now it's got almost 117k... Thats about 20k a year

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Almost 79k miles

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Homemade FWI

Autolite 606 plugs, Autolite wires, new PVC and APC cone filter at 66k miles

I would agree.
Mine has similar mileage, is in mint condition and I value it at not a penny less than $15,000.!

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2000 SSEi - SilverBullet - 78,000 kms, 4" "straight shot" custom headlight ram air inlet, TOGs, 1.9's, Lsd, 2.9-3.4"MPS 10-15 psi, Ported GenV, EGR eliminated, OR pushrods, oil volume kit, trani cooler & shift kit, Titanium retainers, 90 lb springs, 160 Stat, 42# injectors, Fuel pump voltage increase, Wideband O2, 3" to dual 2 1/2" Magnaflows, Snow Meth/water injection, after SC temp gauge, 255/50WR17, timing commander set 15-18*@WOT, 2 speed Fan over-ride, disabled DRL, Solid motor mount, Meziere Electric water pump, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Drilled & slotted rotors/ceramics, GXP sway bars and STB, Upgraded and rebuilt transmission with ZZP 2500 rpm stall TC, Pioneer Bluetooth stereo with sub and 800 W amps, PB 13.5 quarter, (April 2014 car of the month)

If you don't need it, and just want it, I would have to favor the simple life. Besides, you can wait for one to fall into your lap. Don't want you to do anything you will regret later. I site the example of my dad. Basically told the salesman that if he can get financing <his credit is destroyed> than he would do it. Sure enough, they did, and he isn't exactly thrilled with payments at this point, especially with the newness of the car wearing off and the nickle and dime stuff you would expect a 12 year old car to throw your way.

Pay of the bonne, save money, and lie and wait for another grandpa/ma to pass away, and the kids just want to be rid of the car.

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~Randall~


1993 Buick Park Avenue - 197k - Some odds and ends done - Simply won't die
1994 Buick Regal - 78k - Bone stock - Always ready for a good kicking
1990 Oldsmobile 88 - Gone to a better place

Low miles do not guarantee low problems. I got my car 1.5 years ago with 31k miles on it, and have had to repair several large rust holes as well as replace a fair number of parts that were worn out with age.

Also, it's staying at its current level of performance simply because of the age and ongoing rust issues that are limiting my car's life to another few years at the most.

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2012 Chevrolet Cruze Eco - Current car

1999 Buick LeSabre Custom - Former car

Learn from the mistakes of others, that way when you mess up you can do so in new and interesting ways.

I don't know what I want to do....

On one hand I would LOVE to have a Ei or GXP

and

on the other I don't need a new one and could pay the 99 off and fix it up (finding time is my problem right now) And save what I would be paying on payments and extra ins (full vs. state min) for a down payment on a used G8 GT in a couple years.

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Almost 79k miles

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Homemade FWI

Autolite 606 plugs, Autolite wires, new PVC and APC cone filter at 66k miles

There ARE some differences in the 2000 Bonnevilles versus the 01+.

Here is some info on the 01 changes - http://www.media.gm.com/ca/gm/en/produc ... ville.html

You'll note "Modified suspension for improved steering response", which seems notable, as well as several other less important changes such as "Passenger frontal air bag features dual-stage deployment", "Rear seat centre shoulder belt added", "Engine oil change interval increased to 16,000 kilometers."

If you want information on other model year changes, simply change the "2001Bonneville.html" to the model year you're interested in.

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"SLE without the ugly" - leather, climate control, sound, 3.05 gearing, 180* t-stat, tints. http://www.gillsystems.com

Too much! Don't pay that much for the car. He's making a KILLING on it at that price. He paid maybe $6000 for it at auction, if that much. It's a buyers market... don't believe a word he says, his job is to sell cars. He will say he's got x number of dollars into it blah blah blah.. you hold the upper hand. He will say he needs to fix up your car, that is BS, he is just going to wholesale it.

When I bought my Avalon a few weeks ago, I got the guy down by $4000.

EDIT: If you really want the car, tell him since the bank is willing to approve $8500, then that is your max. Then tell him to take your car and wholesale it for say $2500. Remember that and remind him that you are looking at a car that is 9 YEARS OLD

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2019 Lexus ES350
Previously Owned: 2004 SE, 1995 SE

If you need to work this hard to get in a different car, and getting rejected by banks, it is not worth it for you. It's a sign that you aren't ready..
The smart thing to do is to get your car paid off....
Save your money and buy a car when you can afford it.
Making $150 payments on a 9 year old car is going to be upside down soon, and you are in the same situation again..
You still owe $2800 on a 10 year old car? Fix it and pay it off.

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Steve
Was - 1998 SSEi - 128,000 mi. ---- SOLD----
Was - 2003 Cadillac DeVille DTS - 91,000 mi. ----SOLD----
Is - 2008 Cadillac STS AWD Luxury, Black/Black.
2008 Ford Fusion SEL, - Midnight blue - Black leather int.
2005 Buick Lacrosse CXL, Silver - Black leather Int.

I myself dont buy a car unless I have the cash in hand. It saves alot of stress.

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2000 Pontiac Bonneville SE
1997 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight LS
1993 Buick Regal GS Coupe
1992 Buick Regal Limited Coupe

x2. You're not lying. I'm a firm believer in only buying what you can afford, AKA have money for. If you don't have cash saved up, then you don't buy it. All about self-discipline.

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2012 Ford Fusion SEL, 2012 Chrysler Town & Country, 2007 Chevy Silverado LT, 1999 Pontiac Firehawk, 1979 Pontiac Trans Am

I would NEVER have had a car if I had to pay cash for it.

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Almost 79k miles

Mods....
Homemade FWI

Autolite 606 plugs, Autolite wires, new PVC and APC cone filter at 66k miles

I would keep walking on this car. It's 9 years old, I don't care how few miles it has. My second car was an '84 Thunderbird. It was ten years old with like 46,000 miles. It blew three head gaskets in a year and a half and warped the head twice. It's obvious the car hasn't been on the road very much and has probably only been driven for a couple of miles at a time, not enough to even warm up the engine. I think you could be in for a disaster if that car all of a sudden has to work every day driving three times as many miles in a year. For that price you could buy something 3 years newer, and even though it might have twice the miles, it would probably last longer.