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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:59 am 
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i recently started having trouble with my 95 se. it happens completely at random. when igo to start it the car will turn over run for about 20 seconds the spudder and stall right before it spudders and stalls. ive noticed that the power windows and locks stop working. however all other electronics continue to work fine. after it stalls it will refuse to start again but after a few hours it will fire right up no problem. getting stranded is really starting to become a hassle and i would love to get this figured out any suggestions would be greatly appreciated (currently its sitting in a gas station parking lot down the road)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:10 am 
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Check all power and ground cables for corrosion. Clean/replace as necessary.

Pull the carpet back in the front foot well corners and check/clean the ground busses. (you'll find pics if you search)

Make sure you don't have a security light flashing on the dash when the car won't re-start.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:36 am 
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i cleaned the positive terminal last night and it didnt help. the security light turns on and off as it should when you turn the key on. i did just put in an older aftermarket stereo in (speakers are still stock tho) im gonna try putting the original stereo back in and see if it helps. it will usually start up after about 45 minutes but last night it didnt.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:10 pm 
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So what about the positive connections at the alternator, starter, fuse/relay center? The cables them selves can have corrosion, not just the terminals.

And battery ground?

And ground busses?

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97 BMW 528i
98 Infiniti vq35'd i30: 13.3@104mph, 30MPG Hwy (RIP)
02 Jag X-type
03 BMW M5
05 Chevy Cobalt LS
07 Infiniti G35s 6MT (Sold)
07 Ducati Monster S2R 800 with DS1000 swap
83 Yamaha IT175K
72 Yamaha DS7: '74 RD250 swap, JL chambers

Info on dropping a 92-99: Here.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:10 pm 
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the buses are clean and all the wires look to be in good condition. ill have to check the positive connections when it gets to myhouse im having it towed as i type this. the ground was spotless (i just replaced the terminal bolt on the ground). thank you so much for helping me.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:33 am 
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update; i checked the positive terminals on the starter, fuse/relay center, and the alternater and they all look to be in good condition. i didnt see any corrosion or build up on them. however tonight when i came home from work i figured ide give it one last try to get my windows rolled up and it started up. took a bit longer then usual but it did start and run fine (no sputtering or coughing) i backed it up a few feet to get it closer to my garage and then shut it off. i just want you guys to be informed on all things that it does. so you can better decide what issues you think may be occuring. thank you so much for your help in advance.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:13 am 
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When it won't start, does the starter turn the engine over?

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98 Infiniti vq35'd i30: 13.3@104mph, 30MPG Hwy (RIP)
02 Jag X-type
03 BMW M5
05 Chevy Cobalt LS
07 Infiniti G35s 6MT (Sold)
07 Ducati Monster S2R 800 with DS1000 swap
83 Yamaha IT175K
72 Yamaha DS7: '74 RD250 swap, JL chambers

Info on dropping a 92-99: Here.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:16 pm 
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yes it does it tries to start but its not getting gas. dont the windows and locks share a fuse with the fuel pump?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:26 pm 
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Can you hear the fuel pump prime when you put the key in the run position?

I'll have to take a look at my FSM for the power circuit to the fuel pump. I've seen fuses partially blow and open once hot.

Definitely check all the interior fuses on both passenger and driver's side carefully if you haven't already.

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95 SLE... a keeper. 241k miles. Low and Slow.
97 BMW 528i
98 Infiniti vq35'd i30: 13.3@104mph, 30MPG Hwy (RIP)
02 Jag X-type
03 BMW M5
05 Chevy Cobalt LS
07 Infiniti G35s 6MT (Sold)
07 Ducati Monster S2R 800 with DS1000 swap
83 Yamaha IT175K
72 Yamaha DS7: '74 RD250 swap, JL chambers

Info on dropping a 92-99: Here.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:27 pm 
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Sounds Like a Fuel issue Check fuel Pressure, should be at least 48 psi at the service port


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:55 pm 
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when it wasnt starting the other night i couldnt hear the fuel pump start. but last night i turned the key on it took a second but i heard it kick on. it has a slow strart and a rough idle now. i dont have a fuel pressure gauge and i cant find anywhere to rent one. i didnt even know there was a pasenger side fuse box in the interior. ill have to check those in the morning. thank you all so much for your help


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:33 pm 
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Harbor Freight has them rather cheep.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:16 am 
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I agree to check fuel pressure.

Here's the fuel pump electrical in any case:
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The fuse is in the passenger foot well panel.

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95 SLE... a keeper. 241k miles. Low and Slow.
97 BMW 528i
98 Infiniti vq35'd i30: 13.3@104mph, 30MPG Hwy (RIP)
02 Jag X-type
03 BMW M5
05 Chevy Cobalt LS
07 Infiniti G35s 6MT (Sold)
07 Ducati Monster S2R 800 with DS1000 swap
83 Yamaha IT175K
72 Yamaha DS7: '74 RD250 swap, JL chambers

Info on dropping a 92-99: Here.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:43 pm 
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sorry i disaperred for a while but im finally back and with a small update today i started it up after sitting for about 3 weeks to a month and it took a minute to build up fuel pressure to start but it did and it idled steadliy and at a normal rate i let t run for about ten minutes then a got in it and tried to put up the windows. instead of the windows going up it sputtered and stalled and would not start again i checked the busses under the door again and there was an extremely small amount of corrosion on the metal plate wiht holes in it but nothing that would affect anything but i cleaned it off just to be safe. i also removed and checked a few maxi -fuses under the hood (60 ELC/MISC, 60 LGT, 60 IGN SW, 20 PCM/VATS) there are 2 60 IGN SW fuses one in each side driver and passenger side i pulled and checked both all of them looked fine but i got back in after all that and it sitting for about a half hour while i was doing all that it sarted right up no issues and just to try i put up the windows and it worked fine. still dont know what the issue may be


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:52 pm 
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Chang the fuel filter if you let the car sit for periods of time fuel will go bad.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:21 pm 
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Just for grins, check the battery and alternator too. - BC

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Hi, you can try inspecting the fuse connections to the boxes and check the power in wire bolted to body.

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