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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:26 pm 
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I have been fighting an issue for months, and finally registered to hopefully get an answer from the experts on here.

My driver's side window on my 2005 Bonneville GXP quit working last fall and have tried everything known to mankind to fix it. Everything else (other three windows, mirrors, memory, locks) all work fine, only the driver's window doesn't. Here's the knows:

1) Putting power (jumping from battery) direct to the blue & brown window motor leads raises and lowers the window. (motor and regulator must be ok?)
2) The leads have continuity to the driver's door module. (no broken wire there)
3) No voltage can be measured from the control module to the motor. (using blue/brown wires together or to ground)
4) I have replaced the control module - twice.
5) I have replaced the main window switches with a brand new switch module.
6) Toggling the window switch either direction causes a click in the control module (relay sound) - hence the feel that the switch is working anyway.

There are numerous posts on here (and internet in general) where only the driver's window works, but none of the other windows. Mine is the exact opposite, and am not sure what else to check - summer is here, and would REALLY like to use the window! I would appreciate any help anyone could be.

Thanks much!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:39 pm 
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So i'm thinking maybe there is an issue with the DDM wiring on the front end. Check the orange wires going into the DDM to make sure they are getting 12 V and check the black/white wire to make sure it has continuity with ground. And check the tan/white wire which is the data bus for continuity. These wires all run to the drivers door switches. Check your rear fuse block to make sure the DDM fuse 7 is good and the 30A circuit breaker 57 for the power windows is good. Both have orange wires that run to the DDM and should be hot at all times. Perhaps remove the wiring boot between the door and the cowl and make sure none of the wires are damaged.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:21 pm 
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That you, Bob, for the reply. The large orange wire into the DDM did not have power, so ran a new jumper from the proper orange in the passenger compartment, through the door boot, and now have power to the module. The smaller two orange wires are fine. The grounds are all fine (black and black/whites). Best I can tell, the tan/white has continuity, and also has a 0 ohm reading. But still, the window doesn't work, and no change to any of the other functions that do/have.

Is there anything else I can loko for? I appreciate your response!


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I will try and look up the pin outs for the DDM and send them to you. If you don't get them in a couple days PM me to remind me.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:31 am 
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Thanks, Bob!


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Here are the scans

http://www.profitnessmd.com/Cars/CCF04282014_0000.pdf

http://www.profitnessmd.com/Cars/CCI04282014_0001.pdf

check all the oranges to make sure they are hot, and on C3 the connectors to the window motor should be hot when the switch is moved to the up or down position. Check all the grounds for continuity to ground. With the switch in up dark blue on c3 should read 12V and brown on C3 connected to ground. The opposite is true when the switch is in the down position.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:34 am 
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Thank you, Bob. Will get back in the door when the rain stops. Much appreciated!


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:44 pm 
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Bob, thanks to your help, the problem is solved, and the window works for the first time in over six months!

I retested the orange (good power) and the grounds (all good)

THEN, tested the brown/blue again per your instructions, and was amazed to see the tester light up when the switches were in the appropriate position. Now get this... this is good... drum roll... after running the new power wire last week, I forgot to plug the connector back in the motor. Duh, dumbo here. plugged it in and it worked.

So, thank you very much for your insight, drawings and so on. This spring/summer will be much more pleasant with an operating window!

Blessings to you.


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Thank you!

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Where did you find the orange wire in passenger compartment?


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