went to the post office this afternoon and when I came back out and started the car, the blower motor did not work at all. I will check the fuse under the back seat in the morning but wondering if this is this a common problem at 81k or should I look elsewhere?

well it is not the blower motor fuse under the back seat, it's good. The blower motor has been making a slight squeeking noise when the blower is on low, on high it was fine. Maybe the blower motor is bad then

It could be the blower motor. Luckily you have an 03, so changing the blower motor won't be as much of a pain as it seems. Carl knows what I'm talking about, he had to do his not too long ago.

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

yea, I found a thread on here, doesnt sound too bad, Rock Auto is half the price of everyone else but 2 days away, better get it ordered. Would the fan speed lights move up and down with the control even if the blower's not working? Probably so

Probably. The blower motor is separate from the ECC unit, i.e. When one is broken the other may still work. If you were to remove the Ignition 3 fuse or ECC control panel the fan would default to the highest setting. Goofy I know. Hopefully it stays a little warmer the next few days.

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

Strange thing happened this morning, before I backed the car out of the garage I decided to hit down on the dash couple of times just to see is something was loose....... the blower motor started to work? I believe it still might be the culprit?

Could be? I've seen strange things before like that. Maybe do a visual inspection and make sure no wiring is loose/cut etc.

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

There have been reports of the internal wiring of the blower motor going bad.

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That's what happened to mine. It's some sort of internal dead-spot, happens to all motors eventually. Turn it on, nothing, whack the dash, works for the rest of the trip. Time for a new one, before it dies completely...

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

I know it's for a different year, car, and probably motor, but the same thing happened to the blower motor in my LeSabre back int he winter of '07. Every few mornings it would stop, so I'd have a nice cold drive to work.

One morning I got fed up, opened the hood, took the back of the biggest flat head screwdriver I had in the car, and gave the motor a fast, hard hit. It's been working ever since.

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1995 LeSabre Custom: 312K Miles | Custom K&N CAI | Edelbrock SDT Muffler | Camaro Tips | 180 T-stat | LED Interior
& Exterior | 20% Tint | PA Grill & Portholes | Limited Trim | GTP Rims | Ported LIM | Plus Many More Mods | Restoration Thread
2001 Bonneville SSEi: 225K Miles | Instense FWI | Intense MPS (3.4") | 180 T-stat | ZZP Plog | Ported Rear Manifold |
ZZP 3" Downpipe | Magnaflow Cat | Retrofitted HIDs | GenV M90 | GXP Brake Upgrade | 35% Tint | Plus Many More Mods |
2005 Bonneville GXP: 101K Miles | Custom FWI
2009 G8 GT: 89K Miles | 35% Tint | Roto-Fab CAI | SOLO Mach Exhaust | BMR Tunnel Brace | BMR Sub Frames | BMR STB |
Kooks Headers | QTP Electric Cutouts | BMR Sway Bars | Elite Engineering Catch Can | Innovative Dual Wideband Kit
1984 Caprice Classic Wagon: 86K Miles | Restoration Project

Yup. Happened to me. Same exact description. It's rather tight under there. Andrew suggests removing the passenger seat in order to replace the motor. I got away without doing that because I'm tiny. From what I recall, the blower motor is held on with three 6.5 MM screws. So make sure you have that size. There is a mess of wiring under there that you need to wiggle your way around to get the motors in and out. But honestly it isn't that bad.

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"Penelope" - 2003 SLE - 247k Miles
"Sydney" - 2000 Honda S2000 - 98k miles

I did order one from Rock last night so should be here when the temp drops back down to cold. It will go before long if I dont change it out

Psh, I did mine with the seat in, and I'm huge, lol. It's a real PITA tho. Might be different on 00-01's because of the ducting, though.

The plastic kick-panel is held on with 2- 7mm screws and a clip, IIRC the motor bolts are 10mm? Idk, it's all metric, so just have a 1/4" drive ratchet and set of sockets there, lol.

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

The 02+ are different somehow. Supposedly easier.

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

It's just the motor and the cage 02+, instead of half of the ducting, etc. Sucks to suck.

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

Mine still works great.

80k miles.

Plus I don't ever really turn the fan past four "bars" or tickmarks or speeds or what have you.

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily

Mine went at like 160k, lol. Probably #2 tho...

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Bye Bye:

RIP sandrock

Before I replaced mine, i did pull it out and clean the brushes and the commutator. That made a huge difference with performance. Eventually it developed circuitry problems, so I replaced with a Delco unit.

Since you already ordered, it probably isn't worth the effort to investigate..

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yep, just going to switch it out. Pretty weak to only last 81K if you ask me for those of you that remember the story from the meet: maybe a fingernail got stuck up in it

I've seen fingernails and hair stuck under the lens of a HUD before. Kinda gross. But if it can get there I suppose it could get anywhere...

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Will
88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily