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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:17 am 
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So while driving home from rescuing the T/A after the starter konked in a gas station, had to walk to get The Limo and jump the Bird to get it back to the bodyguy's house. Unrelated, really, but when I was driving home, with Carl, the SES light on The Limo randomly came on, and nothing about the car changed. I scanned it when I got home and it was P0420, specifically the picture below. I was perplexed since I have a ZZP emulator on the rear O2 Sensor. What could cause this? Could my Emulator be kaput? I'm confuzzled...any help is appreciated.
EDIT: I might add I cleared the code but it came on about ten minutes later on my way to work... :banghead:
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92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:16 am 
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I hate that code. What is the status of your front O2 sensor?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:45 am 
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Replaced maybe 4-5k miles ago...

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88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:48 pm 
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Sounds like your emulator died. Call ZZP.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:27 pm 
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Sounds like your emulator died. Call ZZP.

Will do first thing in the morning. Hoping this is what it is.

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88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:28 pm 
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Ran into the same things on my daughter's Regal. Had a high flow cat on it that kept throwing the code. The ZZP emulator lasted maybe a couple of years, before it had to be replaced.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:14 am 
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Couple of years would be nice! I've had mine for maybe four or five months! :btruestory:

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88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:36 am 
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I get the same code periodically with a Magnaflow cat on the car (weld on)...rather annoying.

I'm curious if an aftermarket rear O2 will fix the issue (non-gm).


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:10 am 
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No, the rear O2's just report to the PCM, they should all read the same. The best way is to get it tuned out, second best is to use the emulator, if it doesn't fail, lol...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:38 am 
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00Beast wrote:
No, the rear O2's just report to the PCM, they should all read the same. The best way is to get it tuned out, second best is to use the emulator, if it doesn't fail, lol...

I think Im going to have Kyle turn that code off in spring when he does my tune on second thought, this is annoying...lol Called ZZP,they do tech support on a callback basis, so Im awaiting a call back.

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88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily


James May wrote:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:21 pm 
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Wouldn't you know it...I ordered a new emulator this morning from ZZP and about 20 miles ago, the SES light just went away... :bhuh: IDK, but it works for me, so I won't ask questions. Lol
Maybe it got scared because I went to the Buick dealer to sneak a look at the new Regal again, and to see if the GS came in yet, sadly, it has not...lol

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88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily


James May wrote:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:42 pm 
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ZZP's "tech support" is more of a "When I get around to it and feel like it" more than anything...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:04 pm 
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:withstupid: They were no help to me at all...

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88 Cutlass Ciera Brougham International | 120k mi | White w/ Dk Claret Int. | Roller to be S2 L67/4T65E-HD | 1 of ~5100 3.8 FE3 Int'l series
91 Riviera | S2 L67 Swap/4T60E | 127K mi | Antelope Met. w/ Tan Int. | Saved From Death By Crusher
92 Bonneville SSE | L67/4T60E | 77K mi | Med Slate Grey w/ Two-Tone Grey Int. | Low Miles Time Capsule
92 Lumina Z34 | LQ1/4T60E | 177k mi | Torch Red w/Grey Int. | Rusty In Odd Spots
99 Tahoe LT | L31/4L65E | 276k mi | Spiral Grey Metallic w/Grey Int. | Truck for Truck Things and Portable Concert Hall
03 Park Avenue Ultra | 212K mi | White Diamond Met. w/ Shale Int. | Southern Time Capsule
05 Acura RL | 155K mi | Carbon Grey Pearl w/Ebony Int. | The Super-Hooptie Daily


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