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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:03 am 
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Please read and offer any help and knowledge you can!

Full story is down a few posts \/


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:25 am 
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Can you post your issue here? A lot of people aren't members on both sites.

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That link will take you to another link on the gmforum, as well as other links embedded in that post.
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nstead of writing everything all over again I am just going to link to the original post , which has links to the grandprixforum where the discussion continued.


You'll likely get more assistance, if people don't have to jump through many hoops to find out the problem.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:28 am 
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Ok , sorry but I've been asking around so much . Here's the rundown:
1996 bonneville 3800sc (series 2) - bought the engine with 100k miles on it and I replaced the lim gasket with the zzp aluminum gasket and also did water pump, replaced rear main seal and cover plate gasket, put a 99 Grand Prix oil filter adapter on with the spring and check valve correctly. Also replaced lifters which were primed (soaked over night in oil and pumped before install) And also installed new pushrods. When running the engine I get 60 psi at idle so the oil pump is ok but only the pushrods on the alternator side of the engine are getting oil squirting up and the pushrods on the ac compressor side of the engine are completely dry. I tried motor flush and then rislone and the second drive with rislone the horrible tapping sound silenced and then came right back on the next drive. Thinking I had a clogged oil passage I tried valve medic and marvel Mystery oil but the rattlly tapping is still loud and noisy (no oil to that ac comp side valve train) . So I did a 5-7 mile drive with 2quarts 40weight oil, 2 quarts ATF, and 1 quart acetone. The rattle is still as loud as ever meaning no oil to that side. First I was told I prob have the rear main seal cover plate gasket on backwards preventing oil to that lifter bay.but then I read and see by the gaskets appearance that if that happened it would only be the balance shaft that would be starved oil . Now I am getting info about a dual check valve oil filter adapter that was needed and that that could be starving the ac compr side Lifters oil. I'd rather not have to pull the engine out and take it off the tranny just to find out that the gasket for the rear main seal cover was ok to begin with. Is there such an oil filter adapter with dual check valves? Please help!!! (Oh and thanks for reading this whole thing)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:10 pm 
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Bump- please read. Now I have the full story on this thread

Somebody's gotta know something about this....


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:35 am 
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It's possible that the rear cover plate is clogged, but the oil filter adapter won't cause anything like this.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:33 pm 
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So the only way the ac compressor side lifters get oil is through the rear cover plate? The ac comp side lifters don't get any oil feed from the front like in the timing chain area?

If that's the case then I should be able to physically see the obstructed oil passage in the rear cover when I remove it. I'd rather not have to remove the harmonic balancer and timing chain cover if its not going to reveal anything or help at all.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:41 pm 
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I got info from the Grand Prix forums today

Early SII from 95-97.5ish have a rear cover with a shallower crossover groove that caused valve train noise on the early engines so pretty much all 98 and later rear covers have a much deeper crossover path between the two divots which line up with the primary oil galley in the rear bank and the secondary galley which is only for the lifters on the front bank.
that is the only passage it is not like the earlier engines which have drilled crossover path and an integral rear bulkhead that is quite a bit sturdier than the series 2 even if it is heavier

So all signs point to that rear
Main seal cover plate.
Either the plate or the gasket , something's restricted there.thanks so much to everyone .
And if anyone has a 98 or newer series 2 rear cover plate To sell let Me know


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