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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:54 pm 
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It's gone....

Transmission is SHOT. This time for sure. I can't even accelerate over 1/4 throttle or 3k rpms, and it starts spazzing out and slipping like mad, I tried more Seafoam Trans stuff, and no results whatsoever, slips like mad and the trans temp seems VERY high, I had smoke coming out of the dipstick tube. If I accelerate REALLY slow, it will go, but too slow to the point that people will run me over. I knew I jinxed myself last night in MadMike's thread when I said I beat on mine and it hasn't died yet. Well... it's dead now, and I have no means to get the tranny rebuilt, nor do I have the money or time. This is a terrible thing to happen... of COURSE it had to happen when I get a job. :angry4:

What am I gonna do? Now I have to rely on my Mom or Dad for a ride to work, which is going to be hit and miss. :angry7:

I need to go lay down.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:58 pm 
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sorry to hear that will, maybe you can find a good deal on a used trans?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:01 pm 
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No used ones for me. It's not worth all the blood, sweat and b**ching to put a trans in that has a unknown condition.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:13 pm 
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it is really the luck of the draw. I put a used one in the 92 5 yrs ago and no problems. Rebuilt the 97 when it was working fine and it crapps out less than a year later.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:14 pm 
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well make sure its not an unknown condition then...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:07 pm 
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Bonneville92V688 wrote:
No used ones for me. It's not worth all the blood, sweat and b**ching to put a trans in that has a unknown condition.


William I won't recommend that you rebuild the trans, but I wouldn't stop you from trying either..

Its tedious, it takes time and patience... And you would really have to have the Rebuild Manual for it...

Chances are that you may have killed off a thrust washer, or possibly an O-ring.. And or the Clutches are just Gone..

Generally you should have the specialized tools to do the rebuild....


Honestly getting the trans out is not really the bad part, or putting it back for that matter.... Its the time and effort that would be spent in the rebuild..

You can get a pretty full rebuild kit for a couple hundred, and throw in the shift improver kit and hardened reverse reaction drum... would also be good to replace the 4th input shaft..

I believe that I have $400-$450 tied up in parts alone for the 95 Bonnevilles rebuild( if I ever get there )...

If you know anybody that knows transmissions it may be worth the time to tackle it... A rebuild would be a bit spendy, but at the least you'd have a warranty..

Sorry to hear it tho Boss


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:11 pm 
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Oh no no no... I'm not even going to attempt a rebuild myself. I was talking about me pulling it, and having someone rebuild it, rather than paying them labor to remove it and install it.

I know something is fried... I've been smelling burning fluid over the past few days with no problems, then this morning it slipped a bit, and I didn't think nothing of it. Then when I got on the highway today, I accelerated hard to pass someone, and that was it, slipping like a SOB. Got home and pulled the dipstick, fluid is VERY dark, and there was smoke coming out of the tube.

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Yeah, and I just replaced that fluid last year, too... *dang*, sorry to hear that... Aren't you making 800-900 bucks a month? Where's that money going? Last I heard, you had no expenses...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:59 pm 
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Well guess what? It's NOT my tranny... supposedly. I called my mechanic buddy up, and he came over and checked it out. He looked at me and said "You thought it was the tranny? This fluid looks fine!" He drove the car and says it's not the transmission in any way. He says that I may have weak fuel pressure or a clogged fuel filter. So.... off to get a fuel pressure tester. The fluid looks pink with a slight brownish tinge to it. We checked again and it turns out the smoke was coming from the leaky rear valve cover corner. I swear I get so panicky. :roll:

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That would be nice to see you to finally test your fuel pressure, it may explain your hard starting, KR, etc.

I suggest using this guideline I quoted from your KR thread.

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I'd like to know your fuel pressure with a HOT pump (right after a fairly long drive).

At prime (prime on/off three times with no start).
At idle.
At idle with the vac line pulled from the fpr.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:49 am 
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If thats the case... You are very lucky...

Make sure you are in the 41-47 PSI range...

Do as stated above...

My car is not SC'd.... But I was getting KR at one point and found the fuel pressure to be low... I kept getting KR and the Counts were going mad...

After I replaced the Pump, that problem went away :wink:

Again... Do as stated above


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Strange one this morning, got in to go to work, and the car ran GREAT for about 5 minutes.... then BAM! Started the crap again, sputtering like mad above 3k rpms. Same thing after work at 4, ran fine for about 20 seconds, then BAM... back to the crap again. DOH. I need to go buy a fuel pressure tester now....but not before I replace my fuel filter.

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when the pump warms up and gets hot is probably when it starts running like crap is my thought..

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I knew I jinxed myself last night in MadMike's thread when I said I beat on mine and it hasn't died yet. Well... it's dead now, and I have no means to get the tranny rebuilt, nor do I have the money or time. This is a terrible thing to happen... of COURSE it had to happen when I get a job.


You know you did it to yourself, so don't feel sorry for yourself, make some time, work some overtime and rebuild it! :angry7:

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Ok, a sigh of relief... it's NOT the tranny in anyway. I just went and bought a tester, put my new Wix fuel filter on, and went out for a drive. I then hooked the gauge up, purged it properly, and here are the results.

Prime 4 times, key on - about 39psi, I would say 40.
At idle - 36-40psi, fluctuates between those numbers.
Idle with the vacuum line off the FPR - 40-44, fluctuates between those numbers.

Results are the same with the new filter, I really can't tell a difference, it still runs like crapola.

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Bonneville92V688 wrote:
Ok, a sigh of relief... it's NOT the tranny in anyway. I just went and bought a tester, put my new Wix fuel filter on, and went out for a drive. I then hooked the gauge up, purged it properly, and here are the results.

Prime 4 times, key on - about 39psi, I would say 40.
At idle - 36-40psi, fluctuates between those numbers.
Idle with the vacuum line off the FPR - 40-44, fluctuates between those numbers.

Results are the same with the new filter, I really can't tell a difference, it still runs like crapola.


Sounds a lot like the pump isn't keeping up... I will swear up and down that the 92-93 will spike to better than 50 Psi with the vac line disconnected... I think you may not have enough pressure under boost...

I'll let someone else chime in to make sure I am right tho...


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Can you check the psi under WOT while driving down the road?

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