We are working on my sons lesabre tonight and seem to be missing somthing...a brake line rusted out --no problem ,we got it all replaced,bled all four wheels,and just cant get a decent pedal.It does have abs.Could the master have failed by being emtied by the open line?Should we bleed the lines at the master?What am i missing here?

You might have air in the master cylinder where it doesn't belong.

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If the M/C went empty, you're going to have to bleed it.

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I refilled it as needed during bleeding.Is there a master bleeding procedure that i should have started with?

If the M/C was run dry, it probably has an air bubble in it. You need to get some fittings that screw into the outlets, hook some vinyl tubing onto them and back into the reservoir and pump the pedal till bubbles stop coming out of the tubes. Then you can hook the lines up and re-bleed all the lines. Go to a parts store and say you need a bleeder kit for a master cylinder. They'll probably have one.

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When you unhook the lines from the master cylinder, press the brake pedal all the way down and hold it there with something till you have the other lines hooked up. Then bleed them all again after you get it all hooked back up.

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WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights

You will also want to be sure that the master cylinder is level when bled, usually best on a workbench with a vise. Unless you can get the car situated so that it is level, bleed the MC as outlined above, bolt the lines back up, then bleed the lines.

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We made a MC bleeder from shop parts..rebled all the wheels.It made it much better.The MC was bone dry when we got it off the trailer,no matter how much you know the brakes dont work instinct makes you step on the pedal!Thank for all you help tonight guys.Junior is back on the road!

Mine is still worth $4-$5K for insurance purposes and I am considering scrapping it. Actually leaving the doors open in the mall and praying for a theft would be nice. One little thing after another and some not so little issues. Lots of little things need to be done to my 01 SSEi. I guess you have to really love the car to consider putting what the entire car is worth into one repair. Maybe buy another for $1200-$1500 and keep yours for parts on the new one? Heaven knows these cars like to use up parts on a regular basis, I am not sure what's worse some days, owning a boat or this Bonneville. BY far the most expensive and troublesome car to maintain I have ever owned. I get much of the labor for free and I'm still considering giving up on it, what's that say? Great engine, but Mickey Mouse and his friends at Disney built the rest of it. Maybe Fisher Price even had a hand at assembling these 01's?

wug, I'm not sure how your post relates to this topic. Do you have a brake issue on a 92-99 generation?

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